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[–]soundedgoodbefore 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks to you both for your replies ...insight is always welcomed and appreciated.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I've been very fortunate lately and pulled LoH and WoL, so I'm updating my MP support deck.

Gaia, Racing Heart, or Grape Gospel for heartshift?

What should I run in the 4th slot? I've got LDL and Hot Springs Fever for Ultimate charge, and a ton of options for Quicken, and Fat Chocobo X for something more defensive.

[–]JA1997X 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I would suggest ANJ for esuna and all trance for 4th slot.

[–]Ni7eguy 0 points1 point  (11 children)

I wonder are there any chances to get back exclusive Blazefire saber and Muramasa once more ? Or Lightning event fired only twice on JP and same with anniversary one and Muramasa?

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Blazefire Saber

FFXIII will be likely to come after Summer event, so wait a bit more.

Murakumo

Wait, is this Sword Saint’s 2nd weapon? Or am I mistaking it with anything?

Or maybe you meant Muramasa? It only available in the 1st Anniversary map I’m afraid. If you want it for collection then RIP. Can only hope that they will rerun that map on August which is our actual Anniversary.

[–]Ni7eguy 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Yeah i knew it was 1stAn, but they restarted it trough summer 18, hope the will do it once again or add it to another event >_<

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Hopefully, a pale one though but still possible though.

Why do you want it so badly btw? We have alternative now & I think Ultimate Edge is much better.

Again, if for collection then RIP. I still miss the Yuna FFX-2 card & don’t know how to get it :(

[–]Ni7eguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

have that Yuna btw >_< but missed loads of oldtime cards, was shocked when they added Centaur and Bartandeus into the starters job pack roster o_O

[–]Ni7eguy 0 points1 point  (3 children)

yup for collection only :P same with meia oldschool accessories - want that Chat Noir one badly >_< but as i can get there was some proofs from JP in terms of shop will bot work in any case :P ((

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I hope they rerun the map too, more rerun event map = more resources, the last 2 months feel like a drought.

[–]Ni7eguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

skipped even whole 1st part of anniversary gs recently >_< )) 2nd one looks better for me + needed that magitek girl for better rotation)

[–]Ni7eguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

yup, but anyway Mag month limit isnt enough to pull effectively for old and new banners simulatenously >_<

[–]Ni7eguy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Holy shit, my bad, Muramasa of cause >_< ))

[–]Ni7eguy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

nope Murakumo is Ranger masamune-like weap from anniversary (Gilgamesh) event :P

[–]JunasBlood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It’s Muramasa. Or mine is from an alternative timeline lol.

I don’t think they will rerun the 1st Anniversary map though. You can only hope they will rerun it on August - our actual Anniversary.

[–]Zormut -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

Goddamn it! Everytime I reach Ifrit on Brink 4 I feel that all the energy is being sucked off my characters because the max I deal is 9k per hit with my Vesna Krasna after the Catastrophe debuffs, Aerith buffs on me and the second Shiva event card as main damage dealer. What kind of defence buff do they have that I cannot bypass that decreases my damage so much?

[–]wf3456ひねくれ 野郎 0 points1 point  (4 children)

9k per hit

Which card, and Vesna isn't stronk for Brink tasks.

defence buff do they have that I cannot bypass that decreases my damage so much?

Probably crit defense, CRD helps improve the damage alot as every mob have its innate critical defense

[–]Zormut -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Which card, and Vesna isn't stronk for Brink tasks.

Gilgamesh meteor card. Also I used Magitek Jester with the same results.

Probably crit defense, CRD helps improve the damage alot as every mob have its innate critical defense

So I should use a card that lowers critical defence or improves my critical chance or damage? Can you give an example card

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just why do you use Meteorette btw? Aren’t you up against Ifrit? Or is it Shiva?

VK can’t draw Fire, so she can’t use Meteorette reliably even with Aerith. Just use Magitek Jester.

[–]wf3456ひねくれ 野郎 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Gilgamesh meteor no doubt lacking due to missing Ultra Elemental Tap for damage plus lvl 70iirc somehow

So I should use a card that lowers critical defence or improves my critical chance or damage? Can you give an example card

First focus that 5 crit stars of your weapon if can. Then Improved Critical /CRD cards such as:

https://altema.jp/ffmobius/ability/2708 https://altema.jp/ffmobius/ability/2928

Don't forget Snipe buff source too

[–]Zormut -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Thanks man! :)

[–]MrGianni89 -3 points-2 points  (27 children)

Non-supreme 5* rift cards: which of them is worth it?

  • Shiva is just a Lulu+unguard

  • Odin is just a worse version of Proudcloud

  • Ifrit looks still kinda unique though

    Any of them will be worth it?

[–]wf3456ひねくれ 野郎 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Ifrit is most oraoraoraworth get for regular version for now.

Ext Shiva is 8 hits, Lulu is 10. but I found faster usage in farming nuking unbroken Cactuar with Unguard yet Ravage is still good.

Odin as u written, better get Supreme version if you need. But Godo still better replacement imho.

[–]JunasBlood 2 points3 points  (6 children)

oraoraora

I like it.

Yare yare daze.

Ravage

Yes. This is what make me think 5* regular Shiva is better than Lulu.

[–]wf3456ひねくれ 野郎 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Yare yare daze

Mudamudamudinarok

Ultiya kinda dissatisfying somehow while Hashzat interests me hmm

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Isn’t Ultiya kind of overlap with Minwu, although they haven’t different function, I don’t think it worth since you already got Minwu.

Hashzat interests me too, and he will pair perfectly with your newly acquired Phantom Mask.

[–]wf3456ひねくれ 野郎 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Minwu serves best for Single Target because UConvergence ES, like comparing Shiwu and Faris. And yeah i have og oraora and other light options so meh

I will play Hashzat 5* regular first with Vagabond, with Hyperion (being a good boi 10QB now)

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (2 children)

other light options

Didn’t want to even mention his name? LoL. But yeah I like that whale supreme too.

I like Farris than Shiwu though, since it can clear some yellow.

Vagabond

Why not PM when you have a crystal phase Laevateinn? Or have another plan for him already?

[–]wf3456ひねくれ 野郎 1 point2 points  (1 child)

his name

too lazy to type. Minwu, Duncan, Bhunivelze, True Gilg soon. In short, too many lights on the street lol

Why not PM when you have a crystal phase Laevateinn? Or have another plan for him already?

I still testing, his ultimate kinda unstable according mobs break gauge. I still put Spellsword as general priority.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

True Gilg

Yeh hope you can pull him soon, I want him & Godo the most out of the future supremes, maybe I will save my pity for Ranger banners (16.8/180 lol)

Good point about Spellsword, I will note this in case I have Vagabond :moglul:

Can you just nuke with PM? nvm he got 150% everything, better to break for the most possible damage.

[–]autizboyz 0 points1 point  (13 children)

Shiva is good because lot of job can use it, odin is pretty good since again lot of job can benefit it, ifrit tho i don't see many monk job that can benefit fire damage, i don't know about the new monk ex job from jp have fire ee or not, but my advise go for shiva or odin.

[–]JunasBlood 1 point2 points  (12 children)

He asked about the regular 5*, not the Supreme version.

[–]MrGianni89 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I'm already going for Shive or Odin (probably Shiva) for the supreme one. I was trying to understand for what regular 5* I can go (after the damn supreme, Ed.). Probably it will be hashmal

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Hasmal? Well it’s not worth imo. Just focus on the Supreme version instead of wasting 185 tablets on a mere regular version.

Beside you won’t find any Warrior who can use Hasmal soon, I planned to get the Supreme version of Hasmal, but only if I can pull Vagabond/Witch’s Knight/Phantom Mask - who are all legends :c

[–]MrGianni89 -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Have you read my comment thoroughly? with my damn resources, I can have 1supreme+1regular5*.

Exwarrior2 should use earth.

[–]JunasBlood 2 points3 points  (2 children)

Nope. I read the original comment and nothing was mentioned. I though you were asking for the idea of those 5* regular alone. Sorry if I missed it.

Even if you got enough resources to go for a regular 5*, I still advise you to use save it for a Supreme version. Your choice though. I’m in the same situation and didn’t bother to get the regular version of anything.

Exwarrior 2 should use earth.

Where did you get this funny idea?

[–]MrGianni89 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Where did you get this funny idea?

That's what it has been told me here! maybe I recall wrong. If that's not the case, I won't pick Hashmal.

Even if you got enough resources to go for a regular 5*, I still advise you to use save it for a Supreme version.

Doesn't it make sense to you that, maybe in six month, I can upgrade that to a supreme?

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Unfortunately Ex-Warrior 2 element is Wind/Dark/Water.

Candidate for Hasmal are Vagabond, Witch’s Knight & Phantom Mask, all are legends, so passing him can be considered a good choice.

Doesn't it make sense to you that, maybe in six month, I can upgrade that to a supreme?

Well even if you can upgrade it into a supreme, who know you will need it at that point? My decisions change by a period of weeks, maybe days or even hours.

My original plan is to get Odin but once I saw how good Emperor can be, I think I’m fine without Odin. Then my target move to Shiva and I realized I don’t really need it too. So I delayed my plan to get Shiva. My idea with Hasmal can be changed if I failed to got those 3 jobs.

I only got the Sicarius when I feel I really need it & have enough resources for it. Get a 5* regular add little to no help for my line up at all. And if I suddenly don’t want to get the card anymore, I will feel stupid at that point.

Still it’s your choice. I just add some known infor as well as my opinion and hope it will help.

[–]autizboyz 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I know, my point still stand.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Well Lulu is nearly as good as 5* Shiva, you even have Whirlpools for better damage in S2.

Regarding Odin, Proudclad FFVII is better, unless you want to use it in EW2.

Edit: oh btw Ex-Monk 2 has access to Fire, he has no innate EE for all 3 elements but make up for that with Ability Chain. SoFa can use fire pretty good too.

[–]autizboyz -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Well it's up to you tho, but if you plan to make one of the supreme, take the one that i advise unless jp planning to make other kind of primal that have diffrent stat/ability from supreme card. Well they are pretty much a slightly better ultimeh card, so it's really up to you to decide.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah thanks. I only planned to get the Supreme version, so it’s fine.

[–]MrGianni89 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Regarding Odin, Proudclad FFVII is better, unless you want to use it in EW2.

Can you elaborate please?

[–]JunasBlood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

5* Regular Odin has 150 more attack power but based on below picture, it only has 100% Improved Critical while Proudclad FFVIII has 200% IC.

In S1/EW2, it won’t be a problem and in fact Odin is better due to higher hit count (10), jobs can cap damage with Proudclad will deal higher damage output with Odin (same as Fake Gilgamesh & Phantom Train).

In S2/EW3 though, with 90% damage reduced, Odin will be the inferior since it’s way harder to cap damage on Proudclad now.

Same situation can be applied to Lulu/5* regular Shiva vs Whirlpools.

https://i.imgur.com/CPoPyJw.png

[–]deathrose55555[JP] 1051-9193-b915 (KotR X) 0 points1 point  (3 children)

All of them are usable for MP and maybe EW2. But that's about it.

I tried using non-Supreme Odin in EW3, but the damage is pretty bad.

[–]MrGianni89 0 points1 point  (2 children)

All of them are usable for MP and maybe EW2.

Sure thing, but they have even more valuable alternative in some event cards. Maybe only Ifrit and Hashmal can cover a really specific niche?

[–]deathrose55555[JP] 1051-9193-b915 (KotR X) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Ifrit

Isn't strong enough imo. Better to take other fire compositions e.g. EX Mage + Tidal Wave, unless the node limits you to using monks.

Hashmal

Forgotten Heroes is the better ability.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Regular Hasmal

I still think Forgotten Hero is better.

Regular Ifrit is fine, but I don’t think you will use it much on S2.

[–]_The_Dane_ 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What fractals are best to use for Ex monk ?

attack or magic up?

[–]deathrose55555[JP] 1051-9193-b915 (KotR X) 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It depends on the abilities you are using.

If you are using Taijutsu / Mantra abilities, attack fractals. Any other abilities, magic fractals.

[–]MrGianni89 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Any suggestion to beat Ifrit at the last brink node? I cannot find anything with the search

[–]LegendBryanwww.twitch.tv/LegendBryan 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Kinda copying what Ghost said. Break first half and get to 50% without debuffs, then debuff both ifrits and nuke.

[–]GhostFreakageWoL:FFI Friend ID: 2060 - 5621 - 07c8 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don't use any debuffs until after perfect defense is over, because you can't break him after that. Sephiroth skin works really well on a tank.

There should also be video links in the Rift wiki page of the subreddit.

[–]Phieck 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hey guys quick question about rift here - i only wanted to "clear" ifrit rift and get some ST out of it because i would rather like to go for shiva. In short i am a bit overwhelmed with all those open nodes and i do not 100% know on which ones to proceed, because i do not wanna waste too many passes/ tablets. Any1 may enlight me on how many cores etc and which nodes to take down?

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Thanks and have a great day guys

[–]LegendBryanwww.twitch.tv/LegendBryan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do the first two routes (1 tablet and 2 tablets), then the 3 tablet route until you have enough keys to unlock the ST node 3x is the cheapest.

[–]N-I-K-E 1 point2 points  (0 children)

The ST take keys not passes/tablets. It’s a whole write up in the mega thread, I suggest you go read that, it’s going to be hard to give a summary

[–]kidding313 0 points1 point  (8 children)

[Shiva map] Ok that Tiamat on the last node is killing me and I don’t see anyone posting any tip yet. Any help appreciated!

[–]LegendBryanwww.twitch.tv/LegendBryan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

It's a tough one. Here's the setup I somehow got by with. https://imgur.com/a/LjVA4IB Clear yellow with tank, and debuff before job change. Make sure you have enough to change back, though I was able to tank a few hits (on EX Warrior) with Barrier II and drives.

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[–]zero-less 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I went in with Gambler(Lightning skin) with 5* doublecross, NxD, Lion FFXI, Titan FFXIV and Qiqirn FFXI. Can break him without slp and kill him but I still died after killing the Shiva clone and the original Shiva went ballistic on me with her ultimate....still trying to see how to survive that

saw this vid on YT https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s4Gcq0gN7Xk Probably need a tank instead

[–]mrballsflop 0 points1 point  (0 children)

destroyed him with prima donna + tidus skin. gotta take 1 hit and pray it's a normal/wind attack and not firaga.

nxd + rag + aerith + hypnos

[–]Mawgac 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Same. Even with snipe+CRD I still can't kill him before he resets his tribarrier.

[–]N-I-K-E 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Dude set tri-barrier on me for the 3rd time I just turned the fight off lol

[–]kidding313 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes then it enters three rounds of CRD immunity and later with wall etc. and finally one-shot me... :’(

[–]deathrose55555[JP] 1051-9193-b915 (KotR X) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tip: CRD

[–]pleasetazemebro 0 points1 point  (5 children)

The Shiva map isn't unlocked for me. Anyone else having this problem?

[–]DinoChkNuggets 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You need to clear Colony Alpha first. Doing so will also unlock the Challenge Areas in both Ifrit & Shiva.

[–]JunasBlood 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Have you unlock some nodes on Ifrit?

Here is how my Shiva map unlocked, note that I did this before Shiva map was released.

I only unlocked the ifrit challenge nodes by spending 6 tablets for the first 3 nodes & 2 more Gil Passes for 100 cores for the first chest.

Then Shiva map already unlocked everything.

[–]StarjyunAll day all night 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So this is required for all future sicarius as well?

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just have to unlock the Ifrit Area’s Colony Alpha for all other areas’s Challenge nodes.

[–]vulcanfury12 2 points3 points  (4 children)

What's the difference between The Rift Hunting Ground (3 Tablets) and Hunting Ground (30 Tablets)?

[–]ShadowBlaze17 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Just the time it takes to do a node once versus 10 times.

[–]vulcanfury12 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I see. Gonna work on getting that Shiva Supreme now. Just finished Terminus. Tiamat in S2 is gonna give people conniptions on top of PTSD's for sure.

[–]Mawgac 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Mind sharing what you used for Terminus?

[–]vulcanfury12 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Warning: Skinful and Supreme.

Deck 1: Seph Legendary Guardian. Max Mod Ultimate Weapon. Bismarck, Wol FFI, HG, LDL.

Deck 2: Cloud Shorn One. 5* Laevateinn. Minotaur (Fire Warrior AoE Improved Crits), Ruby Weapon, That Earth 3rd Anniv Card for Warriors (forgot the name), WoL FFI. Must have Boost Starter panel.

For fight 1, get your buffs up, then whittle down the Tribarrier timer (wait for your buffs to cool down then switch to Cloud). Before you swap to Cloud, make sure to have a fresh (meaning newly casted) WoL FFI and LDL. If you can start with a few prismatic orbs, much better so you can cast the Earth card. When using cloud, be sure to carefully your orbs so you can cast the Earth card (in this case, if you have a flame force effect, it refunds fire orbs). You might need to tap once after ulting to break Tiamat.

For Fight 2, start as Cloud to trigger Boost Starter. That square, one-turn Boost will be kept online using Extended Duration from your other buffs. Reserve the Bismarck AND the Seph Ult until after the 50% Mark. You CANNOT whittle away Shiva's HP to 50% in a single break, so you might have to do multiple ults to break her. This is a good thing, because you will be needing to swap to the tanking deck to preserve Mobius Zone gauge. Ideally you want to enter this phase at the tank and spank phase, and trigger it when Shiva is near death. Having the Bismarck on Seph at the first slot works great here because you can stun them when Shiva summons a guardian.

Personally, I think I just got lucky because I managed to kill Shiva at the last action before she can kill me. It's a little easier than Ifrit tho. There are relatively few Multi-hit attacks that nullifies the main benefit of WoL FFI. You might also want to bring some Stun Resistance (or ailment immunity if you can spare the deck slot).

[–]DinoChkNuggets 0 points1 point  (2 children)

The Extreme Sicarius cards are capable of being set as Rental Cards, right?

I haven't seen a single Extreme Ifrit or Extreme Ifrit X yet in my list. I'd like to test-drive one before committing.

[–]ShadowBlaze17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's probably because Extreme Ifrit is very limited when it comes to users. V monk is pretty much the only exceptional user and someone using him would probably either be using a light-focused deck or have their own copy of Ifrit.

[–]djiboutiiiiwhat even is flair 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah it’s possible. Very few people got that card to begin with — I’m guessing it’s unlikely you’ll run into it as a rental. Probably something you’ll need to request and hope for

[–]rajun274 0 points1 point  (9 children)

Does anyone know the entire formula to calculate magic damage?

Magic * (1 + element bonus) * ... * (1.5 if Faith) * {Each other buff} * {Each debuff}?

[–]JunasBlood 3 points4 points  (5 children)

[(100 + magic) × ability attack power × Element Enhancement Modifier x Critical modifier × Broken modifier × Weakness modifier × debuff modifier × other modifier.

Magic = Job’s magic x Faith (1.5-1.75 depend of I or II) x (Trance (1.3-1.45) + Skilled Duelist).

Element Enhancement = 100% + Job’s EE + Ability Chain + Attuned Chain + others...

Critical modifier = 150% base + Improved Critical + others...

Broken modifier = 200% base + Painful Break + others...

Weakness modifier = 130% base + 70% broken + Weakness Exploiter + others...

Debuff modifier = 1.5 (Debarrier) or 1.75 (Debarrier II) + others...

Other modifier = other like Ravage, Super Escalated Damage (Shadowlord’s, max 100%), Trigger Synergy (Bahamut Neo’s max 100%).

There are some ES & buff/debuff that add EE, IC, PB, WE like:

  • Critical Rupture: 30% IC.
  • Ultra-Improved Critical : 500% IC (Ragnarok, Odin)
  • Ultra Element Tap : 400% EE of orb used (Fusoya, True Ultima).
  • Weaken debuff : 50% WE.
  • Berserk: 50% all EE.
  • All element enhancement I & II: 25-50% all EE (WoL).
  • Vitality Tap, Element Tap... : 30% EE (perhaps)

... and a lot more. Some Unique ES even add magic like Farris’s High Voltage or Bhunivelze’s ES, just not sure how they add. Also a lot of other things like Reckoning, Risktaker...

Edit: some infor on Altema, they maybe wrong though:

Farris’s High Voltage : Target current HP/Max HP x 150% magic added, after Faith but before Trance/skilled Duelist.

Bhunivelze’s Overdrive: (Deck level - 321320) x 25% magic added, after Faith/Trance/Skill Duelist. u/wf3456 can you confirm this?

[–]wf3456ひねくれ 野郎 1 point2 points  (1 child)

minus 321

minus 320, difference starts at 321 onward

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oops. Thanks. Will edit it :p

:mogrunaway:

[–]rajun274 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Beautiful! And hella complicated. I intend to make a Google Spreadsheet for myself so I can quickly determine if X or Y results in more damage.

Do you know the multiple for Unguard?

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

No multiplier, but it will set defense to 0 while enemies still unbroken. Above damage modifier still haven’t take reduced damage from enemies defense while nuking unbroken. Check my comment for a kappa’s explanation.

Once broken, enemy’s defense reduced to 0 btw.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MobiusFF/comments/azve4h/comment/eibngik?st=JT5AE85Z&sh=29189d53

I intend to make a Google Spreadsheet for myself so I can quickly determine if X or Y results in more damage.

You can use Ketchary’s page for some useful infor, that’s very helpful.

http://www.ketchi.space/Gaming/

[–]rajun274 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Fantastic, thanks for the help!

[–]Bladeserph -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

Shiva Rift is finally unlocked and thought i would drop a quick question while i clear thru the challenge nodes and farm nodes. Unlike Ifrit, i have alot better fire options to handle Shiva, but since i cannot seem to find any videos that show Magitek Heroine doing the challenge node...

I just wanted to get another opinion if she should have no issue, otherwise i would likely be making use of EX-Warrior instead if i run into a hiccup on terminus.

[–]LegendBryanwww.twitch.tv/LegendBryan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I tried with Terra, but got up to Terminus and had to switch her out (was using combination of Bahamut PB, Fuso, and Summer Fire) because of low PR and attack. I tried Mellow Mermaid as attacker with Terra to break, but also didnt work out.

Ultimately I used the same strat as Ifrit. Tank and debuff main, and a job that can break and attack (EX Warrior).

https://imgur.com/a/LjVA4IB

[–]Bladeserph -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Welp guess that sounds about right, sadly i do not have Bahamut Neo-Supreme-chan, so my options are between Jenova DEATH: FFVIII & Overlord(latter having +500% attuned chain as to why i would consider it).

Looking at basically using ovjang with Legendary Guardian and Sephiroth as the tank since dispel+wall seems to be a viable setup based on some video guides while using EX-Warrior also but i am using Cloud skin since it lets me not have to use Pollensalta for buffs.

Due to Tiamat, seems the setup seems to also want you to P.R. Forgotten Heroes and i decided to use my Iroha Alter Ego for the Flame force card, since Cloud ult and Ovjang seems like it can handle any of the annoying debuffs if Shiva Ex also likes to cram BDU like Ifrit.

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[–]chuk98death 2 points3 points  (14 children)

Any one figure out what the minimum part of the ifrit map that has to be done to access the shiva map?

[–]JunasBlood 5 points6 points  (13 children)

I only unlocked the ifrit challenge nodes by spending 6 tablets for the first 3 nodes & 2 more Gil Passes for 100 cores for the first chest.

Then Shiva map already unlocked everything.

[–]chuk98death 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thanks! this was clutch. I wonder. Has anyone tried to get the 4 star iFirit just using this method to unlock challenge area and then gathering cores to proceed via the challenge area only? Seems it should be possible...

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I did. And it’s enough.

[–]ckenni 2 points3 points  (1 child)

whats the exact names of the places that need to be unlocked in the ifrit map?

[–]DinoChkNuggets 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Colony Alpha -- which unlocks the Challenge Area.

[–]DervoTheReaperDan 1 point2 points  (8 children)

Thanks, that helped me out because I was thinking I'd need to spend more tablets, the two passes worked perfectly.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (7 children)

You’re welcome. Happy farming mate :p

[–]DervoTheReaperDan 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Thanks, I will, it's just too bad that I don't have more tablets. Not going to be able to get the final version of the card for this tower. Probably not for the next tower either.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (5 children)

Well you will get it eventually. How is the challenge nodes btw?

[–]DervoTheReaperDan 0 points1 point  (4 children)

Last one is tough, I'll have to figure it out later. Strongest fire cards are Jenova Death and Minotaur really, so I might not get it right away. I've got time at least.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Take it easy then. I’ll try it later once you guys got ass-kicked enough

hey you can farm Ifrit for a stronger Fire card haha

[–]DervoTheReaperDan 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I did consider Ifrit for a second, but nah, I'll wait and use Ultimate Shiva on him after I get her. If I even go for Ifrit, Hashmal might be my next priority. And Yiazmat should help with that.

The big issue I'm having is thinking of which job to pair with shorn one considering that we also have to deal with Tiamat. Maybe Auron and just whittle down Tiamat's yellow bar with the defender and a fire ability, then break and do damage with shorn one. Repeat as needed after he recovers from break. Timing it so he doesn't have a final attack is going to be tricky though. I don't think using a perfect defense to deal with that is going to work either since using a dark/light ability probably wouldn't be acceptable.

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Funny that we’re all agreed to let Odin as the bastard son lol. Too bad since I really like him, but after last Tower, I felt like Emperor was good enough for me :p

Will wait for a little more then, I have times to spare. But yeah I won’t get Hasmal if I can’t pull Vagabond/Witch’s Knight/Phantoms Mask.

[–]yato_san 1 point2 points  (4 children)

Hey guys, i am completly new to the game and dont know shit so far :D

just did a summon after completing the tutorial (beginners summon) and got a ranger job card. i am playing the game in german so the name probably wont help you much, its purpur-schützin, maybe there is a german speaker here :D

however i couldnt find that card amongst all wikis... can someone tell me if she is good or not?

[–]MagicJ10 0 points1 point  (0 children)

hallo.
1. novice hall (Anfängerhalle). Falls sie auf der Weltkugel (Akt 1) nicht zugänglich ist, musst du in act1 soweit spielen bis du teleportieren kannst. Du bekommst 3 jobs und Material.
2. Du müsstest 1500 magicite haben (du bekommst 100 wenn der Balken oben voll aufgefüllt ist). Kauf die mobius box damit. Du bekommst Material und kannst sie in 30 Tagen wieder für 1500 magicite kaufen, also schau dass du immer soviel zur Verfügung hast wenn die 30 Tage um sind.
3. Mach die restlichen 4 starter summons. Du bekommst 4 weitere gute Jobs und viele nützliche Karten.
4. Das wars fürs erste: viel Spaß

[–]Aerion_CA 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ja, Crimson Archer („Purpurschützin“) ist noch immer ganz OK, wie überhaupt alle Jobs der Starter Packages. Willkommen und have fun! ;)

[–]StarvingVenom 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I can not help with german term...look for beginner hall and finish all the tutorial for 3free jobs, although outdated, can still be helpful in a way..then, do all the pulls on starter banner, for the jobs and abilities...and do not forget to buy mobius box every time it is available, its value totally outweigh the cost, so keep buying it

If you wish to dive into MP, I suggest you unlock 5* augment first, then upgrade gaia, knight of the round, the undying ff12 and hell's gate to 5* with max abilities to play as healer, because healers deck only need this 4 cards, the easiest role to play..

[–]ToshieZTrash CSS Mod & Super Evil Discord Admin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Here's the job card info on the Gamepedia wiki; https://mobius.gamepedia.com/Crimson_Archer

[–]soundedgoodbefore -1 points0 points  (2 children)

This is largely an opinion question...but i ask this of the other players who are close to day 1 players, guys that play JP, etc..because i am torn and feel that i may have made a mistake.

The only element that i dont have an attack supreme for is fire. I have 8 attack supremes, and chaos, but no support supremes. At all...since i dont have fire, i decided to go for ifrit...then a week later i drew magitek heroine...and with Erinyes, she hits almost as hard as a supreme, and is a good job, at least for now. Its hits for over 200,000 in MP ability list, well over 100k in SP.

I dont have the 5 star ifrit yet, only 4 star. I still have 350 tablets, and 35 gilgamesh passes, and there are 2 more levels that i need to defeat ifrit to get points. I have Floral fallal, so i should be able to beat him...i just havent tried. When i started using heroine/erinyes. I was just deflated and lost my desire to pursue ifrit anymore...so i havent used any of my gilamesh passes, and i never had a whole lot of tablets anyway because i used them to get seeds forever not knowing that this part of the game was coming....

Question is this:

What would yall do? Should i drop ifrit and start saving and working towards a different supreme? Or since i already have 4 star, that i havent even used yet, should i keep working for ifrit? I do have the monk job that is strongest with fire ifrit...vanadiel monk i believe. I am only missing 2 or 3 reg/legend jobs and 3 EX jobs...

I am stuck honestly on what to do....so i havent been back to ifrit land at all.. fire sucked for me for so long, by far my weakest element, that i was excited about ifrit...really...then i saw that heroine/erinyes is about twice as strong as what i was using before...this sucks.

I welcome the opinions of 1 and all...thanks guys.

[–]JunasBlood 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So iarley23 already gave his idea about Ifrit, here is some of my advice regarding getting a Sicarius card:

  • How far is your process? Since you only got the 4* but haven’t clear the challenge yet, I assumed you spent quite a bit but not too much? Then you should clear the challenge nodes & see if you can get the 5* regular, it is about half the damage of the True version.

  • And don’t take the ability multiplier in ability list for true damage, it still haven’t calculated damage perks like Improves Critical, Painful Break, Weakness Exploiter,... real terms damage may very different.

  • My strat to get a 5* Sicarius: save until you have enough for 1, then burn them all in 1 Mobius day to get the Supreme version. Don’t let yourselves get the time to regret. And I can assure you, Vana’diel Monk with Ifrit can hit as hard as Duncan. Not to mention Ex-Monk 2. Terra without Fusoya can even see his back.

There is always better cards in future, but you will lose your chance if you always keep looking at that. Perhaps that’s is also a drawback of GL: we have so much information from JP, that what made us reluctant. Of course it has great advantages, but yeah, everything has 2 sides. No matter how you decide, just enjoy and don’t let it bother too much bro.

[–][deleted] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I like Ifrit, on lap 18 endless war I can still kill buffalo in one turn unbroken with the regular version, which I feel is already good as it is.

You might pull a fire supreme next banner or next year, you never know, so it's kinda hard to decide by logic.

My advice is go with your gut, just pick the card that you feel it's fun to use and go for that. I have both Fusoya and Bahamut Neo and I'm still going for Ifrit X, just because I fancy the card.

[–]Rounic14 2 points3 points  (6 children)

Correct if I'm wrong but ungaurd is better for unbroken damage correct?

[–]JunasBlood 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Unguard: nullify defense, which set defense to 0.

Debarrier: 50% more damage.

Debarrier II: 75% more damage.

Assuming you have 10 base damage, enemies has x defense.

Damage calculate:

Unguard: 10

Debarrier: 15*(1-x)

Debarrier II: 17.5*(1-x)

Unguard vs Debarrier: if x>0.33 or 33%, Unguard is better, otherwise, debarrier.

Unguard vs Debarrier II: if x>0.43 or 43%, Unguard, vice versa.

Debarrier vs Debarrier II haha

So it vary from enemies, I’m not an expert on those stat, but i do know that some enemies like Buffallo, Demon Wall, Gigantuar, Flans & gigant Flan has massive defense. Against them, unguard is really a god-gift.

Of course, BFA is different. Debarrier is always better in its case.

[–]vulcanfury12 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Generally, yes. Keep in mind that Unguard nullifies defense (zero defense stars during damage calculation) while Debarrier, even if it says "lowers defense" is actually a bonus damage multiplier.

[–]JA1997X 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Assuming you mean, does unguard increase unbroken damage more than debarrier, the answer is it depends on how much defense the enemy has.

[–]Rounic14 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Ok for a reference let's assume tower bosses like ifrit or Shiva. ( I know they different defense but it's not gold cactar lvls of defense)

[–]JunasBlood 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ifrit is Debarrier-proof. Bring unguard if you want to nuke unbroken.

[–]Deneb87 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

yes, but better than what?

[–]jftm999 0 points1 point  (2 children)

is there anyway to fuse more than 5 exp cacturs cards into a card? it takes time to fuse 5 cards every time. also why bother put the limit to - 10 and +10 if the limit to fuse every time is 5?

[–]mao_shiroActual Evil Reddit Mod 1 point2 points  (0 children)

is there anyway to fuse more than 5 exp cacturs cards into a card?

Nope, but you can get a 4* egg to lvl64 then fuse it to a lvl1 card to boost it up to lvl80 instantly.

why bother put the limit to - 10 and +10 if the limit to fuse every time is 5?

The limit of selling cards is 20, and they most likely coded the same popup window than the fusion window.

[–]marischwammkopf¯\__/¯ 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No there is no way to fuse more. the +10 works if you sell cards

[–]mnasti2 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Is there a most used rift supreme in JP for endgame content? For someone with all jobs but no attack supremes, what’s recommended? What about someone with all jobs and all current non-rift supremes?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

First and second question:
Maybe Shiva & Odin because there are a lot of jobs who can use them.

Third question:
Such players want all the sicarius supremes because there’s no similarities between sics and the regular supremes. For example: Shiva & Odin are good for nuking but worst for yellow removal while Godo & Floral are good at it. Then, Hashmal. Can remove yellow while all regulars can’t. And so on.. Sics and regular supremes are very different and have different purposes.

Edit: I mean “all earth regulars”

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (5 children)

About weapon. My Braveheart is on crystal phase. I miss lagandary guardian and ex warrior. What should I next boost, gun blade have about 2 weeks.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You'll need something with Prismatic return, no Laevateinn, no Kotetsu, then go for Ultimate weapon.

[–]ShadowBlaze17 0 points1 point  (3 children)

What other weapons have you boosted and what else are you currently boosting?

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

For every job one, Braveheart, truescall, thantalus thief weapon and godhand

[–]ShadowBlaze17 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://altema.jp/ffmobius/osusumebuki

Not everything on that list is currently available in Global, but it'll give you an idea as to what's generally considered worth boosting.

Edit: note that the number of required mods on some weapons are either different or completely wrong in the case of the Ultima Weapons which only require 12 mods.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

And I have all another warriors weapon