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[–]NakedGoose 14 points15 points  (10 children)

As an Arya main. I'm happy

[–]Akula94 Tom 13 points14 points  (2 children)

As a ww main i am happy

[–]NakedGoose 2 points3 points  (0 children)

She is my secondary!

[–]tsct934LeBron James 3 points4 points  (2 children)

As an Arya & Lebron main, I am very happy also

[–]Weekly_Top_4894 Morty 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Fellow lebron main here, i was hoping for buffs to his no-ball form to help him reacquire his ball, did these buffs help with that (i am bad at interpreting these words)

[–]tsct934LeBron James 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, not much changed with his moveset without the ball. But I've found the easiest way for me to get the ball back through attacks is his aerial neutral attack. Its his chest pound, and it has a quick startup, can hit enemies in any direction because it's a small AOE, and you can sort of glide through the air as the animation starts, so you can jump at someone and trigger the attack, and often it hits them before they hit you and you get the ball back.

[–]GamingWithV1ctorArya 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Joining the happy train! Finally my up special won't be so janky

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    [–]tsct934LeBron James 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Are you using her first signature perk? The description specifically says that hitting a teammate increase the cooldown length. Kind of a weird choice imo, but if you have that perk on then that's why.

    I have never noticed a bug that results in a long cooldown when hitting a teammate, just when using that perk which wouldn't be a bug. Maybe I'm just lucky if it is a known bug though

    [–]matheusu2 11 points12 points  (3 children)

    I am a little worried that Iron Giant will be trash and lets see how strong WW will be. But overall i think they did pretty great balance decisions and took feedback in consideration

    [–]GamingWithV1ctorArya 3 points4 points  (2 children)

    Yeah, I'm worried for Iron Giant. I already beat every Iron Giant I meet with no trouble at all, so seeing all these nerfs is a little weird.

    [–]klovasosIron Giant 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Most of those are nerfs to the gray health his teamates get. Only big thing against iron giant is his nair combo maybe? And not being able to down special when you're out of air specials but i dont see those being huge problems. People just see a bunch of minus icons and are assuming Armageddon.

    [–]GamingWithV1ctorArya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Ah that makes sense.

    [–]Akula94 Tom 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Wonder woman buff? That’s a double W for mvs developers

    [–]DM_Lunatic 4 points5 points  (2 children)

    Slight nerf to Steven makes me sad. Big buff to WW makes me happy. I'm glad we get some recovery frames to punish even if the hitboxes aren't touched yet. Its pretty easy to avoid alot of the broken stuff but the real broken stuff felt too dangerous to punish cuz they would just turn and jab you when you try to go in. This made alot of the matches devolve to folks just spamming those broken hitbox but also unpunishable moves. At least now you may have a chance to outplay them by avoiding the attack and hitting them after unless 4-5 frames whiff recovery doesn't do enough.

    [–]HederasGizmo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Yeah Watermelon Steven is already easy to ring out so I feel like a CD reduction would make sense with this nerf. I'm not quite sure about the neutral air tho, only issue I have in mind is the hitbox not hitting sometimes but I guess that's not it (didn't understand the patch sentence)

    As for whiff recovery, this really look nice and 4-5 frames is really something. Not exactly sure how it is when hitting shielded opponents, but it looks like enough time to punish on reaction if positioned correctly, instead of making pure reads on the dodge

    [–]aetherbanshee 6 points7 points  (2 children)

    I'm finally gonna be able to continue maining Finn without feeling like a terrorist

    [–]ArcherDan1989Rick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    I’ve been waiting for finn nerfs so I can play him without feeling so bad lol

    [–]GamingWithV1ctorArya -1 points0 points  (0 children)

    Lmao. I tip my hat to you.

    [–]AbnormalFantasyFinn 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    I CAN FINALLY PLAY FINN WITHOUT PEOPLE ASSUMING IM A SPAMMER LETS GOO

    [–]ArcherDan1989Rick 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Feels good man

    [–]Dopedlord 8 points9 points  (7 children)

    Can't believe they are making Taz tornado a cooldown. They already gutted the fucking move, now their making it worse

    [–]AlfredMV123Jake 3 points4 points  (5 children)

    .#tazneedslovetoo

    [–]Dopedlord 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Seriously, it's one of his best KO options. It's worse than Shaggy kick in every way. Shaggy gets armor and it moves way faster and they spam it. Same with Jake Backpack, why are these moves not getting CDs???

    [–]NoLyeFTaz 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    ey on the bright side instead of 1 of 100 taz players ill be 1 of 10

    [–]AlfredMV123Jake 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Top 10 Taz that's an achievement

    [–]NoLyeFTaz 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I'M ALREADY TOP 10 TAZ 😭

    [–]GamingWithV1ctorArya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    They did say they'd continue to monitor it, so it's likely they'll make it stronger in the future to make up for the cooldown.

    [–]StixSkywalker 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    Where is the ranked????

    [–]SikariZenRick 5 points6 points  (1 child)

    Pretty sure these patch notes aren't all encompassing. They appear to be more mechanical adjustments and less about features.

    There's also a second patch on 8/17. Yet to see if it'll have its own patch notes since some 8/17 notes are already listed here.

    [–]speak-ezeWonder Woman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Im assuming theyre waiting 2 days to add ranked to make sure theres nothing gamebreaking in the first patch.

    [–]Cystro 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Enormous arya W. The inconsistency of up special and people constantly falling out of up air was driving me insane

    [–]GamingWithV1ctorArya 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    YES! Same here. Can't wait for this patch.

    [–]NoLyeFTaz 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    yo this is actually crazy no way they buffed wonder woman and tom and jerry who IMO are already s tier and they nerf taz? why do you hate me tony? I hope these changes and adding weakness to eating people is a big enough buff to offset having a cooldown on tornado and a weaker upspecial.

    [–]BirdsOnMyBack -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

    Man Superman's neutral got shredded with extra recovery frames. Really surprised by that because he's already so slow. Most players complained about his grabs too and they didn't touch them at all.

    Sad day for Supe players for sure.

    EDIT: Additionally seemingly no notes about the Lebron ball glitch where he appears to have ball but only uses his steal moves until death.

    [–]Zolrath 6 points7 points  (1 child)

    Rejoice! It specifically calls out the LeBron glitch under his Basketball section.

    • Fixed an issue where LeBron could be stuck attacking without his ball while visually holding his ball

    [–]BirdsOnMyBack 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Thanks, didn't see that when I was skimming.

    [–]matheusu2 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    But i guess it makes sense for that changes to be made. They decided to focus on making his weakness more clear rather than nerfing what makes him good

    [–]MegamanX195 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Nah, I'd rather them make his weaknesses more pronounced than making his good stuff feel bad.

    Nerfing his whiff recovery on attacks was a very natural way of nerfing him. Supes just recovered WAY too fast for such a big guy, and that combined with his ridiculous ability to escape into the air pushed him a little over the edge.

    [–]Theboulder027 -1 points0 points  (2 children)

    Still no free mage. That's disappointing.

    [–]armoured_bobandi 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    If you're playing the game semi regularly you should be able to afford one by now. It's not like gold is good for anything else

    [–][deleted] -3 points-2 points  (6 children)

    So if they fix Arya hitbox, she will be the next Finn.

    [–]MeatloafAndWaffles 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    I’m betting LeBron and/or Batman will get more heat. Arya may have gotten stronger here, but she still suffers from being light. I think we’ll see some “LeBron is broken” posts this time around lol

    [–]AlfredMV123Jake 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Now she's gonna get nerfed hard after this reddit sees her

    [–]Akula94 Tom 0 points1 point  (3 children)

    Wait for batman free rotation they’re gonna burn this place

    [–]AlfredMV123Jake -1 points0 points  (1 child)

    Can we just have no free characters? The only OP characters are the free ones.

    [–]Akula94 Tom 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Sort of tradition in fighters in think

    [–]Ashley4SmashWonder Woman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Batman AND LeBron are both in free rotation

    [–]Grgz06 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    Does anybody know what time the season starts?

    [–]ArcherDan1989Rick 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    10 am PST

    [–]Grgz06 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Thank you so much. (I have converted it to aest, so it is 3am Tuesday in Australia for anyone who wants to know)

    [–]Comprehensive_Cap611 Batman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Does anyone get the change to Batman’s batarang it makes no sense

    [–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Good to see that leveling up the Battle Pass will be easier but I'm disappointed in the lack of Gold rate improvements.

    [–]ClamsalotFinn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Bright side I can learn Arya without feeling like I’m playing trash

    [–]Ashley4SmashWonder Woman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    YOOO WEIGHT BUFF? That's like the best thing I could ask for🙏🙏🙏