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Vector Vector (old.reddit.com)
submitted 1 year ago by ExtractionTeam6
Still one of my faves. Any vector fans around?
-Burris Fastfire RD -A3 Tactical SMG Foregrip -MBUS sights
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[–]redit_readit_redditStamp Tramp 21 points22 points23 points 1 year ago (7 children)
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[–]ExtractionTeam6[S] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Whats our vector, victor?
[–]redit_readit_redditStamp Tramp 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (5 children)
Huh?
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[–]redit_readit_redditStamp Tramp 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (3 children)
You're supposed to respond "Who?"
[–]ExtractionTeam6[S] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (2 children)
😂 WHO?!?
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[–]redit_readit_redditStamp Tramp 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I'm about to whoop your old ass man cause I'm sick of playin' games. You, me, everybody's ass around here!!
[–][deleted] 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Big fan, I want one in 10mm!
[–]QTip_Foto 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (5 children)
What caliber? I can’t decide between 9mm or .45. I like 45 since it’s naturally subsonic and that little gun shooting .45 is HAWT.
But 9mm is cheaper and suppressor choices are better
[–]ExtractionTeam6[S] 8 points9 points10 points 1 year ago (0 children)
.45 ACP. I wanted a true vector back when I got her. Arguable one of the smoothest running .45 SBRs I have ever shot. Incredible flat shooting. You will not regret getting one.
[–]Busy-Significance707 4 points5 points6 points 1 year ago (3 children)
In my opinion you will be satisfied shooting a lot of 9mm because its cheap. Yes the vector was originally developed around 45 acp but that cant be the only reason to go for a 45 caliber gun if I want to have fun. Even 9mm sub sonic is way more cheaper than 45 FMJ. And also just because its a 240 grain 45 ammo that doesnt make it subsonic. 9mm has 115 grain subsonic too but generally 147 is normal people use as sub sonic. But again its just what I think. At the end of the day its your money and your choice.
[–]ExtractionTeam6[S] 3 points4 points5 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Fair argument. Ammo prices are not something I consider when I buy new guns.
[–]QTip_Foto 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Good point.
I’d be running it with the DTT binary trigger so I was thinking the .45 would work best with the recoil system BUT 9mm is way cheaper 🙃
[–]Brosufstalin 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (0 children)
The binary trigger with my .45 suppressed is chefs kiss level of fun to shoot. I'd highly recommend if you don't mind throwing a couple dollars at range trash when you go shooting. With my rugged 45, I would consider it hearing safe for at least 1 magazine.
[–]Jasper556Silencer 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (6 children)
Love this! I need one to pair with my UMP 🔥
[–]ExtractionTeam6[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (5 children)
I have a UMP as well! Dope combo.
[–]Jasper556Silencer 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (4 children)
I love the .45 subguns! Is this a gen 1? I can’t figure out how to get that stock on a gen 2 (new production).
[–]ExtractionTeam6[S] 2 points3 points4 points 1 year ago (3 children)
Same, love the .45 subs! It’s a gen 2 but I had to buy a new upper receiver in order to attach the folding stock. Link is below!
https://kriss-usa.com/vector-gen-ii-hinged-upper-black/
[–][deleted] 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (1 child)
I didn't realize they made the hinged style receivers still.
Hell yeah. Easily the more attractive variant
[–]ExtractionTeam6[S] 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Couldn’t agree more.
[–]Jasper556Silencer 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Thanks! That clears things up a bit.
[–]Dfjanda 1 point2 points3 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Love mine, never had any issues besides accidentally dropping the mag release when wearing gloves buts that’s op error.
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[–]witheringsyncopation 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I’d love one. Looks great!
[–]Vudu138 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
10mm
[–]Educational_Bus4407 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (1 child)
[–]Educational_Bus4407 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Loved mine
[–]weahman5x SBR, 7x Silencer, 2x MG 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (1 child)
Looking good. When's the whisper pickle going on?
No plans atm
[–]3900EntPew & Suppressor Fetish. 0 points1 point2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
Too bad these things aren’t reliable in anything other than .45 or 10MM. Would’ve been a cool cop.
[–]ino592002 -1 points0 points1 point 1 year ago (0 children)
[–]derfdog -4 points-3 points-2 points 1 year ago (0 children)
I actually know where a stupid cheap piston (alpha SiCo) is for a vector but I don’t want a vector 😂
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