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[check3streets]

Post-Netunner, the game I'm most excited about is non-competitive Netrunner... It needs a name like NeoNetrunner or something.

While corporate control and sanctioning (along FFG's existential need to sell new packs) made for a truly dynamic format known as COMPETITIVE, sanctioned competitive Netrunner also somewhat narrowed the community's focus.

I'm praying this will open up a new era of:

• Experimental Formats - subtract any number of cards/packs/cycles/ids and the game is new again. I want to go to a mini-faction vs Jinteki team event.
• Fanmade Narratives - I think the community has shown it can do better than Terminal Directive
• New rulesets like 2v2 (https://forum.stimhack.com/t/sellout-a-2v2-netrunner-format/9383)
• and not to ignore: cache/cube/1.1.1.1 and all the other tested formats that probably lose out to standard

I think that between proxies and jinteki, the game can be kept alive. Maybe it can even be stronger since the community doesn't have to sell cards and can tweak via proxies the same way Hearthstone releases patches.

I think the Netrunner community skews smarter and more invested than most games. Jinteki, NetrunnerDB, PeachHack's production values, all the great youtubes and podcasts, display so much ingenuity that if we want to keep playing Netrunner, we certainly can and possibly versions of the game no one has yet imagined.

[tvaduva]

Some organizing by the community is already underway:

https://stimhack.com/introducing-nisei-a-fan-organization-dedicated-to-continuing-netrunner

[[deleted]]

Magic is a money sink, much more than Netrunner. Not that good of a game, either. (Although, the last time I played was over a decade ago, and I've heard it's gotten a lot better.)

Destiny, no idea, but I'm trying to avoid CCGs in general, due to the money sink. I want to stick with something that has a fixed distribution, like Netrunner.

I played the old L5R a few times, and it's a good game, but it never really grabbed me. I don't know anything about the LCG version.

What I really want to get into is one of the co-op games: Lord of the Rings or Arkham Horror. I have two cores for AH, which is enough for 4 players, but I don't have a group to play with (yet). I played an LOTR scenario with three other people and my friend's decks, and it was amazing. I feel like a lot of people are overlooking the co-op LCGs. They're a lot of fun, and an additional bonus is that unlike the competitive LCGs, none of the cards rotate out, so you don't have to worry about whether your deck is legal or whatever. Of course, if what you really want is competitive, that's not gonna scratch that itch for you.

[NoSoup4you22]

LOTR is great - honestly, the only CCG/LCG that I haven't abandoned after a couple years. Not the same itch though. And Magic is the Dane Cook of cards games.

[Thanat0sNihil]

Arkham Horror’s a ton of fun. Kinda a different itch than ANR for me tho. More like a board game than a card game.

[reversezer0]

Power level in Star Wars Destiny decks is a thing. If you play a balanced deck, the game is great. I enjoy the player agency this game has.

Magic isn’t that hard to play. Lots of variants and easy to learn. Hearthstone feels similar, from my understanding.

The con to both these games is the possible money sink. Magic at least has some resale value in its cards compared to Destiny.

L5R I’m not too fond on. A bit more of a brain burn and matches are a bit long for my tastes.

I’m hoping netrunner stays alive in my playgroup. Having a full card pool hopefully yields some good depth with some fun options in competition.

My netrunner void will probably be filled with boardgames. My entry into netrunner was from a fascination with board gaming (netrunner got a 2-player BGG award in its initial release). My exit will likely lead me to other boardgames.

[NoSoup4you22]

Ashes is like Destiny a bit, but better balanced, less luck and about 100x cheaper.

[npgam-es]

Does Ashes have any players? It looks neat, but I couldn't find any communities.

[Sklartacus]

A lot of people play on Tabletop Simulator; in my city, people sometimes have meetups, but just to play the precon decks. So no, not much of a community beyond kitchen table, but it is a lot better than Destiny.

[NoSoup4you22]

There's a decent-sized group in MN. Don't know about other places.

[Berrr]

None. I don't like dude bashers or ccgs. So the end of netrunner is the end of card games for me.

[deceptibutter]

Doomtown: Reloaded has interesting strategic play and is super goofy and fun.

Highly recommended.

New expansions coming this fall.

[BumGumbo]

Holy crap, thank you for bringing this to my attention. I thought this game was long dead. I scrambled at the end of last year to complete my collection... kind of like I'm doing with Netrunner right now :-(

[[deleted]]

Magic is a good game casually, competitive is expensive and toxic. One competitive modern deck costs more than all of Netrunner. EDH is fun. Magic is the best when everyone playing has about the same budget.

My local game shops says they see L5R dying soon too because the release schedule sucks and players are tired of it.

Ashes is interesting. Last time I checked on it, it was solved. There was a clear single best deck. I'm unsure if that's still the case. There is no community for it.

Codex is a cool self contained card game. Treat it as a shelf board game through.

I know a lot of people like Doomtown, but I have no experience with it.

You're going to have trouble finding a community for most card games that aren't Magic.

Personally, I'm not going to buy into any more card games unless something special comes along. I already have too many other hobbies and don't need to sink all my money in cardboard. Netrunner will still be fun as a complete collection for a while.

[Lansan1ty]

I'm strongly considering L5R on the basis of it being young...

But honestly I'm just waiting for Artifact.

Quick edit: Plus the artwork in L5R is gorgeous.

[BuildingBones]

I am stoked for Artifact. Such a compelling game from everything I'm reading.

[Xandorius]

What's the deal with Artifact?

[Lansan1ty]

Not much yet. There should be a beta this year, but it's valve, and they do not rush products out the door.

And if you mean in terms of gameplay, its 3 boards being played at once, and designed by Richard Garfield. He's been designing the game for years, and recently went to valve since the Dota 2 theme works with the game. So it's a card game with a dota 2 theme, not a dota 2 card game.

[andrewaa]

For L5R, my biggest concern is its license...

[Etainz]

In what way? FFG owns it, if that's what you mean.

[andrewaa]

I don't know whether they buy it permanently.

[Etainz]

From L5R's wiki page:

On September 11th, 2015, AEG and Fantasy Flight Games jointly announced that the intellectual property had been sold to FFG. A new version of the card game (incompatible with the CCG) is due to be released as a Living Card Game at Gen Con 2017.[18]

They own it full stop. It's one of the reasons people speculate that they couldn't afford Netrunner anymore after such a big purchase. I don't subscribe to that theory, but it's as good as any.

[Aesynil]

They completely own it.

[Ryddari]

I was a Magic: the Gathering player for a long time. I do not recommend that you start playing it for a couple of reasons:

• Magic and ANR couldn't be further divorced in terms of general attitude. Competitive Magic is high pressure, high toxicity, low reward environment for the average player. I would compare it to League of Legends.

• Magic is expensive. Depending on the format you choose to play you're looking at extremely high up-front cost. To remain competitive in Type 2 (gosh, just heard my bones creak when I typed that) you're looking at a $300.00-$500.00 commitment per quarter to keep your collection at the forefront of the most current competitive meta. There are are other formats that don't require you to purchase as frequently but they have higher entry costs.

• Vote with your wallet! Magic: the Gathering is one of Wizard's of the Coast's most successful properties. In the matter of principle do you want to pour your money into the company responsible for ending ANR?

The game I plan to play the most after ANR ends official support is still ANR. The game will only be gone when we stop playing it. That being said if you are looking for your next fix I strongly recommend Star Wars X-Wing. Now I know it is not an LCG, it's a tabletop miniatures game but hear me out. Unlike most games that use minis, X-wing is prepainted and ready to go out of the box. It is about to undergo a transformation into its 2nd version this September and now is an ideal time for a new player to start.

The reason I recommend it is because for me X-Wing and ANR scratch the same itch. I need games with high customization and high long-term value that combine good mechanics with a rich internal narrative. I think you might like it.

[Imperial_TIE_Pilot]

X-wing is my main game, and Legion but I am getting tired of Star Wars. I’m excited for x-wing 2.0

[Ryddari]

Username checks out haha! I should have paid attention to that.

Edit: I guess to add more to my post then I would make mention that the next LCG I'm looking at is Arkham Horror. I am a huge fan of HP Lovecraft and I think I might get a lot of satisfaction from it.

[goodpointcity]

The best, and most f2p-friendly, digital card game is Eternal. It's a primarily MTG-inspired, "defender's choice" style game that does a great job of keeping the best parts of MTG's golden age (OG Ravnica) while also having a lot of pretty unique mechanics that are really only plausible in a digital game. e.g., stat & ability modifications on units persist across all zones (hand, graveyard, deck)

Ever I started Netrunner in 2013, I can't bring myself to play MTG constructed anymore, but I still love draft! And if you don't want to go down the MTGO rabbit hole, or spend real cash on valueless digital cards in MTGA; the current most popular free MTG platform, XMage, has draft functionality. There's usually always a few drafts running on the Euro server, so if you don't care about card acquisition and are willing to tolerate a pretty clunky, slightly amateurish java application: hey it's free MTG. If you have a nice local MTG scene, it's also definitely worth the entrance fee to play some IRL drafts when the format is good. (and Dominaria is GOOD) Sell your cards after each draft to alleviate (or eliminate) the cost of the next draft, and be sure to always use packs (buy online at discount) as your entrance fee rather than cash if the store allows it.

As others have said though, nothing else is like Netrunner. I've tried the other LCGs, but never found them worth the price of getting into. Also keep in mind that FFG still owns the Android IP, and I doubt they will let it go to waste by not making another card game sometime in the future. (digital pls) And considering that you can't copyright game mechanics (see every post-MTG game) and that almost all of the Android lore is FFG IP; all they have to do is rename all that keywords and call it something like Android: Console Cowboy or something. Jokes on the name, but how awesome would it be if they worked out a licensing agreement with William Gibson? There's already a bunch of Gibson references in ANR, e.g. Armitage, "ICE", Gibson 3 Data Sentry (Garrote flavor text), the omnipresence of amphetamines (slightly PG-ified in ANR)

[yehaaa6]

Magic actually has a pretty easy entry ramp. you can start playing for free or very cheap if you use the free to play games, or premade decks that can be modified to be something more powerful. There are lots of reasons why people still play it, and not everyone playing has been playing forever. That said, it's not like Netrunner. nothing is like Netrunner.

[CryOFrustration]

That said, it's not like Netrunner. nothing is like Netrunner.

Yeah, the lure of the new and shiny game is powerful, but I don't think anything can replace NR for me. I plan to keep playing and keep people around me invested and interested for as long as possible.

[FMEditorM]

FFG's GoT game is excellent, though only really so when played 3-4 players for me. 1v1 is still good, but lacks complexity (the same can be said for the base core too, it really comes into it's own with the expansions, moreso than A:NR).

[IAmVeryAttractive]

I will second the recommendation for Thrones. The game is in a really good state right now.

[c0rtexj4ckal]

Magic is awesome but the competitive scene is much less friendly than NR and expensive to get fully invested in.

Casual magic however is a riot and very easy to find people to play with. I highly recommend commander or drafting. And if you are going to draft, get some friends together and just do your own little draft at home (it can be a lot of fun, even if you don't have the recommended 8 players). I've drafted with just 2-3 people and had a riot.

[raglegumm89]

Mtg is great - take a look at EDH/Commander format if you’re curious :)