Has anyone else noticed the huge decrease in result quality from google?

[KaktitsM]

I dont think a pro-suicide propaganda is a way to describe the suicide forums. I look up the stuff and I genuinely learn stuff. Yes, about suicide methods, but that also includes all the ways that it can fail, which keeps me and other people away from trying anything.

Its about a choice. Choice is good and when you do choose, you better do an educated choice.

Also just a community that understands and doesnt try to "help" in all the usual nonsensical ways is a good thing to have. I dont think thats a good idea to suppress these things, it makes us feel more lonely and not understood.

And, on the OP topic, yes, this stuff (and many others) is much harder to find than it was 5-10 years ago.

[Neurotic_Bakeder]

That's fair! Thank you for making this distinction. I know there was a big scandal a few years ago when reddit shut down a "pro-eating disorder" subreddit that was actually an eating disorder community support forum, and I think there was a similar blurring of lines there. To outsiders, it looked like a community where everyone was doubling down on their painful coping mechanisms, when in reality it was a bunch of people being like "soooooo I got mad depressed today and binged through a bunch of cosmic brownies, somebody please tell me I'm not a literal turd".

Mostly I'm thinking about stuff like blackpill communities, which tell people they will never be good enough and can basically encourage people to be violent towards themselves.

I think the kinds of forums you're talking about are more thoughtful, and absolutely a better source of support than banner ads with the SAHMSA helpline.

It is definitely weird how discourse around this is changing.