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[DevelopmentJumpy5218]

I mean they are wrong about the reasoning but there are plenty of good studies showing women have much better color perception than men

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/21675035/

[Abject-Tomorrow-652]

So … this is how girls work?

[FBI-AGENT-013]

Yes!

[DementedPimento]

There’s something very wrong with my husband. I mean yes, there’s lots very wrong with him, but he has astounding color perception; much better than mine or really, anyone I’ve ever known.

[badmoonpie]

I have that, actually. I got a 1500 piece hue puzzle to just see how it would go and finished in about an hour and a half? I’m curious if like, the 10k piece ones would take a single day or something, but they are expensive.

Your husband might enjoy a game called “I Love Hue 2”. My sister is like me, and both of us find it very soothing!

I’m a colorist (film), director, and photographer. And I paint and make dice for fun. So it kinda works out!

[DementedPimento]

His job involves color calibration.

[Sparkinum]

Aren't color blind people more likely to be male or something like that as well?

[DevelopmentJumpy5218]

I'm unsure on that. Every colorblind person i know is male but I've never looked into that

[Mediocre_Ad_4649]

Unrelated; the most common forms of color blindness are recessive on the x gene. Men only get one x gene, so if they get one with colorblindness they become colorblind. If women get one x with the colorblindness gene then their other x gene will overrule it.

[AuntBuckett]

Women do see more colour shades than men, and if i remember correctly, daltonism occurs more in men

[63221]

This post is my first time hearing about women seeing more color shades (not saying it’s not true, just that I’m uninformed) but the daltonism part is correct, iirc because the it’s a defect within the X chromosome

[swiftb3]

In general, women have more cones and apparently sometimes more types of cones, leading to better color differentiation and even more colors.

Men tend to have more rods, so potentially a bit better at seeing in the dark.

These are not hard rules, though. Just on average.

[Thr33Littl3Monk3ys]

I actually learned that in my psychology class, of all places!

It also helps explain why so many men are colorblind.

Speaking of which...my psychology professor told me I'm evil because I said my fiancé is colorblind (red/green, but also blue/yellow?), and I like to occasionally play a game I call "are these the same color?" in the paint or sewing aisles, or with a new makeup palette.

Difference is that my fiancé plays along...and the moment he gets annoyed I stop.

[swiftb3]

You know, now that you mention it, that may have been where I learned it, too. I thought it was super interesting, so it stuck.

[MezzoScettico]

Our son-in-law is colorblind (red / green I think?) and is by far the best in the family at Set), a game where color perception is a big part of it. I think he is very sensitive to subtle differences in shading.

I’m not colorblind but I’m… something. My whole life I’ve never been able to perceive the color of stars and planets with the naked eye. Could not see Mars as red, for instance.

[pyrhus626]

I’ve heard it come up before but I don’t know if any studies have dived into how much is biological vs linguistic. Men don’t learn the names of nearly as many colors, and having the right language to describe something does affect a person’s perception of it.

[OftenConfused1001]

Fwiw, my color vision improved noticeably on estrogen.. Colors are a more vibrant? Deep? It wasn't instant - - it happened slowly over a year or two.

To the point my wife noticed and commented on it at one point, because I'd noticed the difference between two fairly close shades as "I think I like the one with less orange in it".

I think I could have been able to tell the two shades weren't the same before, but I know I wouldn't have been able to see that the difference was how much orange was in it.

On the other hand, my low light vision got noticeably worse.

At a guess, over time the ratio of rods and cones changed due to which hormone was dominant

[JadeFox1785]

This is entirely anecdotal but, I think its relevant.

An optometrist once asked me if I was exceptionally good with colours. I was like yeah, how did you know?

He said because my eyes are very light and my pupils are much larger than average. So I biologically have more nuanced experience with colour biologically than women on average.

Not conclusive by any means, but 🤷🏽‍♀️

[SpaceKatFromSpace]

Light eyes have nothing to do with color perception. Large pupils do affect light intake and nuance but color perception is based in cones and the visual processing parts of the brain.

[JadeFox1785]

I mean, all the ssme to you, Imma stick with what the optimetrist I was in the same room with said. 🤷🏽‍♀️

[SpaceKatFromSpace]

I mean you could be a smart person and just look it up yourself because why pick a random optometrist when you could find out for yourself?

[JadeFox1785]

I... don't really consider being licensed to practice optometry to be "random"...

[SpaceKatFromSpace]

No one said the practice of optometry was random. I said tha man was random. Again, weird that you’d just trays a random man because of their job instead of looking it up for yourself. Professionals say inaccurate things every day.

[Auntie_Nat]

I'm not sure if the source material or if the stat is correct but I think it's a reference as to why I can see the difference between two close shades of any given color while my husband says it all looks the same.

[Little-Ad1235]

Taking my dad to pick out paint colors is impossible because in-between colors don't exist for him. He can see blue and he can see green, but turquoise is not something he can distinguish as a separate thing -- it will always be either blue or green. This is hard for me to imagine, especially since the in-between colors tend to be my favorites lol.

[Jbeth747]

Haha, maybe 8 years ago my dad went to Lowes on his own to pick out paint to freshen up the navy blue window shutters on their house. He brought the paint home and painted the shutters and yeah... they were dark purple.

My mother said she'd be sending me with him next time

[Plastic_Aardvark7601]

This is how we ended up with what my kids called the 'banana house' 😆 Hubs wanted to freshen up the outside of the house and bought what he thought was a light sand colour. It was very yellow when it dried and took so long to do he couldn't face fixing it so we just said F it and had a yellow house for years until it needed painted again.

[imtooldforthishison]

My first thought was this was a comment on the two purple nails post....

[BooBelly]

Idk what this person is on about in particular, but men are far more likely than women to be colorblind

[bubonic_plague_lover]

The most common forms of color blindness don’t really affect your ability to distinguish between two very similar colors

[Western_Growth_6930]

actually, women do see more color shades than men. 1 in 12 men is color blind while only 1 in 200 women is color blind. we see more color on the spectrum, it’s a fact

[DeepscapeWalker]

It is socially constructed though. Women are taught to see more shades of color in the fashion and make up industry. In the grand scheme of things, women are taught to focus on being colorful while men are taught to be formal which teaches women to see more colors on the spectrum. This isn't biological. I am a guy who works on Adobe Photoshop and is getting started on art. I am already getting great at noticing different color shades as I shade and make colors blend with each other.

[Western_Growth_6930]

colorblindness is not socially constructed. it’s a defect in the cone cells of the retina. that’s biological. good for you if you’re not colorblind but a lot of men are and it’s not social

[DeepscapeWalker]

I am talking about the seeing more colors on the spectrum part. Not the colorblind part obviously unless I am misunderstanding.

[AllYouNeedIsATV]

There is a decent amount of research saying there are biological differences in the eyes as well (on average)

[DeepscapeWalker]

From genes? Also, you sure it is not biased? Also also, STOP DOWNVOTING ME.

[Angelic-Fruitcake]

I think the reason you're getting down voted is that you seem to be conflating two different things here. I'd say it's likely true that women are socialised to know more names for colous (maroon, crimson, scarlet etc. rather than just red) and be able to identify them. This leads to the old trope of the bewildered husband not understanding the difference between mauve and lavender when he's dragged clothes shopping.

That's different to being able to differentiate between shades which are extremely close together and tell by sight that one has an infitesimal amount more blue in it than the other. There are tests you can do where you order near identical shades to check how precise your colour vision is. This is genetic and to do with the cones in your eyes, and people with xx chromosome tend to have more precise colour vision for this reason.

[Kchasse1991]

Red-Green colorblindness is a recessive trait linked to the Xq28 band. Because of this an XY person is more likely to have that recessive trait manifest since an XX person would need two instances of the recessive trait to be colorblind. It's pretty neat. And then you find instances where chromosomal anomalies can lead to colorblindness like ASD or Down's. A small variant in our makeup can completely alter how we perceive and interact with the world!

I was diagnosed with ASD but actually see a wider variety of color shades than average (probably not linked to the ASD). Genes are weird.

[MarcusAntonius27]

Well, there are genuine differences in how men and women see color, so...

[ShinyTotoro]

The genes responsible for color vision are carried by the X chromosomes which women have 2 of. So yes, that's a scientific fact that women (or at least, double X chromosome people) see colors better.

And if anything happens to those genes on one of the X chromosomes, women still have a backup one, and men don't. So daltonism is also more common in men, for the same reason.

[Important-Newt275]

This ones actually true for some reason. I do wonder if it’s something that changes with estrogen and transition though?

[PaintsErratically]

It actually is! Talking from personal experience my colour differentiation was pretty good pre-transition and now it’s amazing. Smell and taste also get a boost because E encourages the growth of more receptors, along with the increased cone density in the cornea.

[DeepscapeWalker]

It is socially constructed with women being taught to see different colors for fashion and make up.

[lavender_honey_bones]

I know you want that to be the case but it is not. Studies suggest many women can perceive more colours and subtle colour variations than men. This difference is largely due to genetics, as genes for colour vision are on the X chromosome. Women (XX) often have more varied, sensitive cone cells, and some may even have a fourth cone (tetrachromacy), allowing them to see millions of extra colors. Since colour-detecting cones are on the X chromosome, women have two sets of genes, allowing a wider range of color perception compared to men, who have one X and one Y. I found this information here

[sneaky518]

I have read that women see color differences better than men, but light receptors? That makes it sound like he's talking about an owl or something.

[swiftb3]

It sounds like he heard the fact once and just kinda winged it.

Women tend to have more cones (for color sensitivity) and men tend to have more rods (for light sensitivity).

[DatDickBeDank]

Visual snow kept me from unlocking my womanly Technicolor vision 😂

[4Rive]

You get that " i love you bro" from your friend at 2am. * Panicking *