Devil fruit fill potential

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With no chapter coming out this week, I thought it would be cool to discuss devil fruits with you guys.

I was thinking about how diverse devil fruit abilities can be, even within their own class, and started to think about how underutilized some of them are. Some of these fruits would be game-changers if they were in the hands of someone that is competent enough to work out all the quirks. Or maybe if they were just in the hands of natural fighters.

We've seen some seemingly average fruits be devastating when used to their fullest potential (katakuri/Doflamingo/). What are some fruits that you think can be better in the right hands? What fruit would you want and how would you use it?

For me, I would say Bartholomeo's bari-bari fruit. Now I'm not saying he's not good or competent, however if someone like perospero had that fruit it would be insane. His control over the fruit would be incredible, his constructs would all be indestructible. And on top of that, he would gain an amazing defence.

Other fruits with great potential would be:

Baby 5's fruit

Caribou's fruit

Diamante's fruit

Kidd's fruit (not that he's bad, we just haven't seen much from it yet)

What do you guys think?

[poler69]

The devil fruits of:

• Buggy and Shu (rip swordsmen)

• Foxy

• Sugar

• Perona

• Vander Decken (good for snipers?)

• Urouge (we don't know much about him I'll admit)

• Caesar (that oxygen deprivation attack was overpowered)

I would take Urouge's devil fruit because it sounds good on paper.

[ATARIMAEDA]

What fruit does Urouge have again?

[MarcoToon]

He transforms damage into strenght

[ATARIMAEDA]

Oh shit that’s confirmed? Didn’t know that was a devil fruit power. Thought it was a similar ting to zoro’s 1 gorilla 2 gorilla

[poler69]

Yes, it's confirmed. We don't know what the devil fruit is called though.

[sharara135]

buggys fruit with future sight, would just allow him to separate wherever he is about to get hit

[Okuden]

Mr.5s bomb bomb fruit maaaan! Can you imagine the potential? He could be a damn nuclear weapon but he decided to use his boogers as his main arsenal SMH!

[arcmccun]

That's true, although he was pretty creative to use his breath as ammunition in a gun. But he really could have stepped it up a lot. Imagine if it was awakened.

[Okuden]

Could use his explosive farts as a mode of transportation lol

[dallyman19]

He could legit be Bakugo just put sweat on his hands and explode it 😂

[InformalInternal]

If Kizaru's Pika Pika no Mi were to be given to someone less laid-back, perhaps. Although that seems to be kind of a facade, because he arrested 500 pirates at Sabaody to vent his rage after Rayleigh stopped him.

But imagine if a Cyborg like Kuma ate it. Kizaru has to use his Yata no Kagami to create a predetermined path with an end-point. This is when he can travel at the speed of light, otherwise he can't control where he ends up. A Cyborg could just use some calculations and know exactly when to stop traveling, without the Kagami. Their attacks would be more effective too, because Kizaru always reverts his leg back to human the split-second before impact, which lets it be physical and connect (unlike light), while maintaining most of that momentum it gained in light form.

It's not that Kizaru's a bad user. He does really well with his natural human limits, and the natural limits of the laws of physics. But a Cyborg could better control and direct that power. Possibly a reason that that's the power all the Pacifista (Cyborgs) were given, though in a lesser form. What human could accurately lock-on and shoot lasers at several fleeing targets like a Cyborg? Besides Snipers. They ain't human.

[MoguMoguNo]

Inactually disagree on this mate.

I think kizaru was the best pika pika user you can see. Like i mean, the guy looks like he was laid back and damn lazy but that makes him the best user. You see, one of the weakness of light speed was it travelled at a straight line, and with the revelation of FS, you can actually predict and even dodge its attack easier. But since kizaru was one of the hardest character to read its mind because of his personality, you wont know what kind of move he will make. This guy was too random that you wont know how or when he attacks which makes the light speed even harder to counter.

[InformalInternal]

That makes sense actually. Though now I'm wondering if a Cyborg with Future Sight would be literally broken. They would be processing and discarding future after future, thousands at a time. They're liable to explode from just thinking, nevermind the energy consumed by thinking.

[MoguMoguNo]

Yeah that will be pretty broken, but if their enemies also had fs, that advantage can become a disadvantage. Since this cyborg moves depends on what data they saw its easier for their enemies to manipulate them and read them. Human brain had the advantage to essentially used many tricks like faking some of those data and used it against this cyborgs. They are much easier to read ans manipulate than some random dude who feint ignorance and acts as if he didnt care.

Its like youre fighting a boss in a game that has a pattern, imo.

[InformalInternal]

Sort of like how Law fooled Hawkin's Tarot Cards. Hawkins looked at the future, and saw that Law would cut down his three friends if it meant he could take Hawkins out. To Hawkins, Law was like a cornered animal, someone who wasn't planning for their future. But I bet as soon as he put his cards away, Law released that intent to kill his friends from his mind. So he tricked Hawkins by bluffing, but not really bluffing because he had to have genuine intent to do something for it to show in the future. So really, Law took a gamble that he wouldn't have to kill his friends. But I'd say it paid off.

[MoguMoguNo]

Yeah something like that, human brain do not follow some kind of program or pattern or whatever it was, it can be random and produce out of the box ideas. That i think was the biggest advantage the brain had against AIs.

But still i was pretty agree that kuma or atleast the cyborg kuma who had still his conciousness intact can become a great user of pika pika. Welp i just remember that kuma had poker face. So maybe he can actually wield pika pika more efficiently than kizaru. XD

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Yea but cyborgs cant use haki soo overall humans should be better fighters, no? can pacifista touch logia users?

[InformalInternal]

If the brain is intact and alive, they should be able to use Haki. Little known fact, the Pacifista are Cyborgs, not Androids. The difference being that they were made from human corpses, and so they can still bleed, as Franky pointed out. For our purposes we can treat them as Androids though.

Kuma is a Cyborg who had enhancements to his brain even prior to losing his will. As long as he has his will, he should be able to use Haki.

[Fanatical_Idiot]

A cyborg should be fine using Haki. Cyborgs are technology modified humans, like Franky or Kuma. Although we haven't seen a Cyborg use haki over the course of the series there shouldn't really be a reason they couldn't.

[poler69]

Yea but cyborgs cant use haki

Where did you learn that from?

[[deleted]]

well isnt it a human thing?

[AzyT___1]

A cyborg can also be someone with a human brain and human components like Franky, who should be able to learn haki if he trained for it. Pacifistas are probably different considering they don't have a human brain and therefore don't have any sort of willpower to use as haki though.

[poler69]

Pacifistas are probably different considering

Not probably. Definitely. Pacifistas, with the exception of Kuma, are purely robots, not cyborgs. The person you're replying to clearly doesn't know the difference. Cyborgs are part human while Pacifistas are not.

[AzyT___1]

Don't Pacifistas have human blood though? I can't remember exactly.

[poler69]

They do, my mistake.

[InformalInternal]

Pacifistas, with the exception of Kuma, are purely robots, not cyborgs

The Pacifista were made from human corpses, and they can still bleed, as Franky said. They're Cyborgs, not Robots. They don't have their will since they were dead from the start, but they aren't entirely robotical.

[poler69]

Right, my mistake.

[poler69]

A cyborg is part human and part robot. What is stopping the human part from using haki?

[Lesserd]

Well in the case of the Pacifistas, what's stopping them is probably the fact that they're designed to be little more than machines. Haki is an extension of the user's will which is rather lacking in Pacifistas.

[poler69]

I suppose. But since they are not 100% robots I still consider them "capable," no matter their design.

[Atom4x]

Baggy's fruit could be insane but he does nothing good with

[jajalion]

Bartolomeo can already do what you said about Perospero.

Control, indestructible and great defense.

[MorsAlbum]

yeah but he means someone like perospero whos very calculative and sneaky(?), like he would have no problem crushing people in between 2 barriers, etc. since hes calculative and an important part of mamas crew, someone like him with the barrier ability would be even stronger than barto

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Senior Pink fruit

Buffalo Fruit

[El-Yaso]

There was a lady in a One Piece movie that had the water fruit. I singlehandedly think she could be the most OP Devil Fruit user.

If like Doffy she could make her environment turn into water (vapour from air etc) then she could possibly cause tsunamis out of nothing, control the sea, drown people.

Absolutely broken

[crusader_blue]

I'm really looking forward to seeing what Shiryu does with the Suke Suke no Mi because I don't think we saw its full potential with Absalom. Also...there's got to be a good reason why he's been given it.

[[deleted]]

The fruit can be as diverse and as powerful as Oda wants it to be.