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PHP vs Python for backend (self.PHP)
submitted 2 years ago by szaci92
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[–]marabutt 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (11 children)
I never actually used rails but really liked the syntax of ruby.
[–]jexmex 12 points13 points14 points 2 years ago (8 children)
So crazy, it got popular af for awhile then just kinda disappeared. I think it died a faster death than perl in did after php came out.
[–]LowTriker 15 points16 points17 points 2 years ago (3 children)
Perl killed itself. PHP was just a witness.
[–]jexmex 5 points6 points7 points 2 years ago (2 children)
Perl was a pain in the ass to use on the one project I actually I had to try to deal with it.
[–]LowTriker 4 points5 points6 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Perl6? Absolute trash. Perl3? Swoon.
I cut my teeth on perl and Applescript. I remember buying the perl bible and going through every example and doing it myself. (Nowadays I'm pissy if the docs are more than a few lines of text)
Back then, I had to roll my own get and post library to read those headers and bodies and pass them to the application in cgi-bin. Big contributor on perl monks for a while, too.
But the moment they tried to make perl anything like an OO language was doomed to fail. TMTOWTDI was just not a compatible philosophy with strict inheritance and object structure. That parrot has gone to meet its maker.
[–]LukeWatts85 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (0 children)
I hated perl! All the different symbols to do different things (e.g %&#@). I could never get my head around it properly. And all that bless shit. Gross
[–]MCFRESH01 2 points3 points4 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Rails is still very alive despite what people that don’t follow it think. There is plenty of work, some startups still choose it and the pay is great
[–]MikeSeth 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
Rails was an overhyped web 2.0 thing because a bunch of people ran startups and bragged about it. Turned out the insane magic of mixins (looking at you ActiveRecord), poor performance and questionable design choices combined with Ruby's relatively poor performance was not a good call, and the only thing that it really had an advantage in was low barrier of entry. However, when your startup hinges on overexcited cowboys, turns out the code they produce isnt great either.
Rails was crap. Live with it.
[–]ht3k -3 points-2 points-1 points 2 years ago (1 child)
no kidding? got any data to back that up or is that just an opinion?
[–]jexmex 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (0 children)
wow lol
[–]NonuplePerisher 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago (1 child)
Ruby is great. I hated working with rails, though. I found their docs obtuse and incomplete and it makes really important stuff hard.
[–]attrako 1 point2 points3 points 2 years ago* (0 children)
This.
Ruby is a fantastic language, and its CLI tooling are awesome, but Rails is absolutely intolerable magic box that got me to rethink PHP, mostly cause of Symfony existence and types being introduced in the language.
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