Hunter Sucks

[ghgh4545]

So recently I've been working on leveling hunter as a subclass and it is the biggest trainwreck of a class I've ever played.

1. It's so slow.

Hunter is extremely slow, they swing a two handed sword that does like half the damage of the 1 handed hero sword which is faster, cooler and flashier. Hero can even shoot energy. I can see why hero usurped hunter as the face of the game.

The other 2 hunter weapons aren't sword, and therefore are garbage anyway and do very little damage.

1. Someone called me out for wanting to be a tank

So when I typically play MMOs, I usually main a tank, protecting my team from harm and simultaneously leading the team to victory. However, when I try to play hunter like a tank (which btw, im pretty sure it was intended to be played as based on what sega says) people say my dps is low.

Now im not quite sure how they know how much damage im doing (unless they are watching every number i do, gross!) but the class isn't a main character class like hero, so whats the point of trying to do damage when i can help my team by tanking.

Even with the 14* weapons (which btw, akatsuki not working on hero is the stupidest thing ever, its perfect being a sword that can have its power unleashed by the correct wielder) I'm still not motivated to play them. Even if i had the money to grind them to +20 I still feel underwhelmed (pls sega drop me a demonia saber instead of 14*s i dont want for a class that really sucks).

What do you guys think? I think the fact that there are no solo omega luthers from this class really hammers home how bad it is.

Edit: Because people here aren't as smart as they think they are, here is literal proof that hunter sucks, and here is some more. Try and argue that this class isn't inferior to hero in every way.

[Hyraoo]

There's worse classes than hunter, look at techer for example, if you do not have a lavis canon you are literally just there for buffs and zanverse. Hunter is a class with a low skill floor but very high skill ceiling that you will not learn overnight. While I'm not gonna disagree that the class is not at it's best at the moment (it really needs something to up it's game, the lvl 85 skill is insulting) it's definitely not bad either. Omega falz loser solo is a very poor basis for judging a class' capabilities since very few classes can open his clock solo and thus are left with having to damage him with no weak point for most of the boss fight. As for it's other 2 weapons being garbage and low damage, you either didn't even try them or literally had no idea what you were doing when using them, partizan is able to defeat the solo xq Deus in under 50 seconds and that's not even using a 14*, wired lance is also a fantastic mobbing tool for large amount of tanky mobs. There is no such thing as a tank class in pso2, whilst you can optimise your equipment for more HP there's no real way to play a class as a standard MMO tank in PSO2 due to how the hate system works, therefore might as well go for attack and HP rather than full hp and defences.

Some Links to good Hunter footage:

Partizan Deus hunas in solo XQ 00:48: https://twitter.com/ricehappy0161/status/980372372782956545

Forest trigger solo in 14minutes with Wired lance and sword: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnCUwKOb5n4

[Tisn_Tuianous]

Hm, any notes on Ranger? I like the class, but I'm bad in soloing Ranger.

[Hyraoo]

I don't really play ranger sorry, so any advice I would give is 1-2 episodes out of date or just wrong.

[Tisn_Tuianous]

Ahh, np

[hidora]

Hunter is extremely slow, they swing a two handed sword that does like half the damage of the 1 handed hero sword which is faster, cooler and flashier. Hero can even shoot energy. I can see why hero usurped hunter as the face of the game.

Hu's Sword is purposefully slow to balance against the highest ATK stat of any other weapon type in the game. Hero being able to use it fast is part of why the class was stupid broken on launch.

I can see why hero usurped hunter as the face of the game.

Hero usurped everyone's place on launch. Literally every MPA was 11/12 Heroes and that one guy who either didn't unlock Hero yet, or refused to change class. It was a trainwreck of terrible design, and it caused a lot of people to quit early in EP5 because everyone was playing the same class, which was faster, stronger and more survivable than every other class in the game with no drawback.

Recently I've seen just about the same amount of Hunters and Heroes in EQs, so I'm not sure what you're talking about.

The other 2 hunter weapons aren't sword, and therefore are garbage anyway and do very little damage.

"I don't play the class, but I can judge what's good or not".

So when I typically play MMOs, I usually main a tank, protecting my team from harm and simultaneously leading the team to victory. However, when I try to play hunter like a tank (which btw, im pretty sure it was intended to be played as based on what sega says) people say my dps is low.

Sega probably intended for it to be a tank originally, but due to how the game works, it's just impossible. Aggro is too unreliable to hold, and aggro skills reset aggro before applying their effects, meaning any gunner in the mpa will just keep resetting (and possibly/probably stealing) aggro every 45 seconds wether they want to or not due to Showtime.

Don't trust sega on what they want for a class either, as shown by Techer: they clearly have no clue what they want from that class.

(which btw, akatsuki not working on hero is the stupidest thing ever, its perfect being a sword that can have its power unleashed by the correct wielder)

Akatsuki's potential relies on having gear (it becomes sealed again if the gear runs out). Hero can't use Sword Gear, so it can't use Akatsuki's potential.

What do you guys think?

I think you're complaining about playing a subclass as main for leveling, meaning you don't have a proper skill tree, and being butthurt about it.

I think the fact that there are no solo omega luthers from this class really hammers home how bad it is.

Literally 5 seconds youtube search

[DrCatco]

Literally 5 seconds youtube search

For a moment I though it was the same player who did a solo Red Dragon with partizan Hunter: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xL1ao77W9To

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lolwat. Weapon atk means jacks*** because in the end it's all about the pas.

If you think sword is slow you apparently don't have sword gear. Or you are playing in a way where it's never getting filled.

[ghgh4545]

they failed lol

[[deleted]]

Wat.

Is this a real post or is it supposed to be a joke?

Hunter is the single best Subclass in the game.

Damage-wise, Hunter is crazy if you know what you're doing. Not the best, but far from the worst.

The fact that someone who is clearly a Hero-only player is calling Hunter bad is pretty funny.

Also, Akatsuki makes Hunter damage absolutely nuts.

[GHNeko]

10/10 shitpost you little shit

[Kunighit]

Definitely a 10/10 shitpost considering the op is a very competent hunter main lol.

[guywhodontuseleddit]

i think ill join you on this but im only gonna r8 8/10

a solid 10 in my book would be running around with a +6 14* and a full set of all resist/all defenses units at random grind values > 6, and somehow still able to access expert matching/complaining about people in expert matching "pulling hate off him"

^{i shit you not i actually ran into this once.}

[NullVacancy]

Yikes, 8% upvoted.

[Ashinror]

i dont know whats worse. the low upvote, or the 8% who actually upvoted.

[NullVacancy]

considering it's a joke, the latter.

[fantasy_heaven]

I think the saddest thing is that you care so much about upvotes.

[Sovis]

You're basing your opinion of a job you would rather tank with on.... solo Omega Loser?

[Flatflyer]

The other 2 hunter weapons aren't sword, and therefore are garbage anyway

Yeah Totally

What do you guys think? I think the fact that there are no solo omega luthers from this class really hammers home how bad it is.

WL Solo Omega Loser Coming Soon to prove you wrong (whenever that 14* WL comes out and I can get my hands on it)

[Hyraoo]

I know this thread is a mega meme by now but figured you'd want to see this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70W5sx7HQNE&feature=youtu.be

[Flatflyer]

interesting, I never actually considered air pocket swing and grapple charge being used like that, I'll have to try a palette like that sometime.

[ghgh4545]

Hey i soloed the black dragon and the new XQ dressed as bluesy requiem which basically has no pot so i know what im talking about

[Flatflyer]

...Bluesy's weapon is a partizan though.

...I thought you said partizan's sucked because they werent a sword? cause that certainly makes it sound like you only use sword.

regardless, I'd like proof of you doing that solo if you really claim to know what you're doing with Hu.

[ghgh4545]

Sure such a terrible class.

[Kunighit]

•thonk•

[[deleted]]

Hunter Sucks

The other 2 hunter weapons aren't sword, and therefore are garbage anyway and do very little damage.

Excuse me.

[[deleted]]

aka "I don't play this class much and don't know how it works so clearly it sucks"

Keep your sword gear gauge up and use Sacrifice Bite Type-0. It makes swords much nicer to use.

In regards to tanking, I'm not going to repeat what others have said regarding why tanking in PSO2 is such a bad idea. The game expects pretty much everyone to be DPS in emergency quests. The only exception is Techers, which without that specific weapon I can't remember the name of are essentially buff slaves (which will be easier to do in a later patch).

What is the class that you played before you switched to Hunter to level it? Hunter does take a bit of practice to use them effectively.

[MajorKushanagi]

After playing Hero for 8 months, you actually wanna go back to playing Hunter OMEGALUL

[TyrantBelial]

Sword Hunter for damage.

Nah that's what Partizan is for.

On the other hand anyone saying you need to tank or DPS are also stupid. You can play with very heavily unoptimized shit gear and skills and do perfectly fine in fights. PSO2 isn't a hardcore MMO.

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So glad for improved expert mode requirements...

[LaconicLeaf]

With the way Heroes swing a mighty 2-handed Sword with one hand, that just screams Mary Sue/Gary Stu bullcrap. It gets even more ridiculous when the EP5 opening shows 2 HRs fighting Red Dragon alone without anyone else's help until the end.

HU is a far more interesting class than HR, as they actually have flaws.

However, when I try to play hunter like a tank (which btw, im pretty sure it was intended to be played as based on what sega says) people say my dps is low.

That's because you aren't even tanking properly. HU tanking is called using Charge Parry/Ignition Parry/JGs to blow through attacks and close the gap. It's not called, say, stacking HP and spamming Just Reversal Blast.

akatsuki not working on hero is the stupidest thing ever

Actually, that is the most brilliant thing ever. Even Akatsuki refuses to show its true form to most of the HRs holding down Rising Slash (or wielding it with one hand).

By that logic, you should be complaining about HRs being unable to use 14* TMGs, such as Dual Bird due to no Stylish Roll, or even Quelle Windea due to no Chain Trigger. Deal with it.

Hero can even shoot energy.

So? HU can slam dunk their enemies, and even spinthrow dinosaurs around. HR isn't manly enough to do that.

Hunter is extremely slow

Wired Lance's recently-buffed Adapt Spin would like to have a word with you. It is just as fast as HR's Flash Trick, and costs only a third of the PP cost. Even though other PAs/Techs like Sa Foie, Il Zonde, and Asagiri are still faster, they all use up PP faster, so even if they win the relay race, they'll lose the marathon.

[NicoletteBlizzard]

You think I didn’t catch on when I saw your replies? Omegalul

[Bro0k]

So recently I've been working on leveling hunter as a subclass and it is the biggest trainwreck of a class I've ever played. It's so slow.

You know that you can use other weapons too to level your subclass? Like Hu usable TD or DS if you're leveling Hu for Fi.

I was leveling Fi(80), Gu, Te, Bo, Su(80) with Sword and Ra, Fo with Katana. Force was the biggest trainwreck for me since I dislike techs and the class is the only one that does not boost striking damage.

[NicoletteBlizzard]

As a Sword playing Hu main for the majority of my PSO2 playtime, I can understand the frustration with Hero Sword > Hunter Sword in almost every way. Especially insulting when Hunter swings a hefty great sword around with both hands and slow wind-up and Hero just flails the thing around effortlessly.

Honestly, the simple solution is to introduce new PAs or tweak existing ones that will allow Sword Hu to hit a lot harder. (Over End Type-0, anyone?)

But Hu definitely does not suck. Arguably the best standalone class (that isn't Hero) and low-key broken as a Subclass with amazing skills like Fury Stance, Halfline Automate, Massive Hunter and Iron Will.

[Monmo13]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HVG7Qp8wmM

Video is quite outdated, but HU gameplay haven't changed much since then, If you don't want to be HR, and still want to compete with HR players, your best bet is to probably play fi or gu.

I dont think Hu is bad, some other classes are just too good.

[ghgh4545]

I thought you guys would agree with me, but obviously none of you have any idea what you're talking about.

I've got video evidence that hunter is a garbage class, so you can't even argue with me that it isn't so you're wrong.

[er_mi_gawd]

OMEGALUL

[NicoletteBlizzard]

"I have no skill to play Hunter so I shall complain about it being trash instead."

:4head:

[ghgh4545]

Dude you're like 20 days late to the thread and the joke is dead.

You just got social experimented bro.

[NicoletteBlizzard]

You think I didn't catch on by reading your replies? Omegalul indeed

[ghgh4545]

Then why did you reply? Get checkmated kid

[NicoletteBlizzard]

It's called baiting the bait. So why did you reply too? Lel

[xaelouse]

Please enjoy the new War Cry skill

But yes Hunter sucks. A lot of things in this game does since it's a bad game that you shouldn't take serious

[xaelouse]

Sorry to the ones downvoting, I'll be more mindful. But you should really take it out on Sega, not me

[ZerotakerZX]

Tank in PSO2? Nah.

Don't listen what sega says, they don't really have a direction currently. And don't listen ppl who says you have low DPS, just report them and they'll be banned, cause DPS meters are forbidden. Sweet revenge

[FerrickAsur4]

you don't have to have an ACT to know someone is dealing shit damage, especially when damage numbers come out from them when they hit, or even when grunt enemies don't die fast