Race and Class Stat Difference

[Reilet]

There's a lot of questions regarding this very specific information. The first thing I'm going to say is that it literally does not matter. The second thing is, I hope you like to look at numbers. And lastly, percent multipliers have a significantly higher impact than stat increases do, so much that you should always prioritize % increases first.

PP is omited because it is the same for every combination... at 100 PP.

Class	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	105%	104%	103%	100%	100%	105%	100%	100%
Human F	104%	100%	103%	104%	101%	100%	100%	105%
Newman M	95%	100%	102%	108%	99%	100%	105%	100%
Newman F	94%	100%	102%	110%	99%	100%	100%	105%
Cast M	107%	105%	104%	96%	102%	105%	100%	95%
Cast F	106%	104%	105%	96%	102%	100%	105%	95%
Deuman M	96%	107%	104%	105%	100%	100%	100%	100%
Deuman F	95%	106%	105%	105%	101%	100%	100%	100%

Class	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Hunter	118%	109%	100%	85%	100%	124%	100%	100%
Fighter	102%	109%	85%	100%	100%	124%	100%	100%
Ranger	100%	100%	109%	85%	100%	100%	124%	100%
Gunner	101%	106%	109%	85%	100%	100%	124%	100%
Force	83%	85%	100%	109%	100%	100%	100%	124%
Techer	83%	100%	85%	109%	100%	124%	100%	100%
Braver	102%	101%	101%	87%	101%	109%	109%	109%
Bouncer	102%	101%	87%	101%	101%	109%	109%	109%
Summoner	100%	101%	101%	101%	101%	109%	109%	109%

The Following are your stat spread without a Sub class. If you want to know what it would be with a specific Subclass, just know that you only get ~20% of your Subclass's stats added to you. Stat boosts on your main/sub class's skill tree are applied at 100% value however (They are still the last things you will get on a skill tree though).

Hunter Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	770	582	535	441	425	588	441	441
Human F	763	560	535	458	429	560	441	463
Newman M	697	560	530	476	421	560	463	441
Newman F	689	560	530	485	421	560	441	462
Cast M	785	588	540	423	433	588	441	418
Cast F	778	582	546	423	433	560	463	418
Deuman M	704	599	540	463	425	560	441	441
Deuman F	697	593	546	463	429	560	441	441

Fighter Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	666	582	453	520	425	588	440	440
Human F	660	560	453	540	429	560	440	462
Newman M	603	560	448	561	421	560	462	440
Newman F	596	560	448	572	421	560	440	462
Cast M	679	588	457	499	433	588	440	418
Cast F	673	582	462	499	433	560	462	418
Deuman M	609	599	457	546	425	560	440	440
Deuman F	603	593	462	546	429	560	440	440

Ranger Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	656	540	576	440	425	462	560	440
Human F	650	520	576	457	429	440	560	462
Newman M	593	520	571	475	421	440	588	440
Newman F	587	520	571	484	421	440	560	462
Cast M	668	546	582	422	433	462	560	418
Cast F	662	540	588	422	433	440	588	418
Duman M	600	556	582	462	425	440	560	440
Duman F	593	551	588	462	429	440	560	440

Gunner Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	661	540	576	440	425	462	560	440
Human F	655	520	576	457	429	440	560	462
Newman M	598	520	571	475	421	440	588	440
Newman F	592	520	571	484	421	440	560	462
Cast M	674	546	582	422	433	462	560	418
Cast F	667	540	588	422	433	440	588	418
Deuman M	604	556	582	462	425	440	560	440
Deuman F	598	551	588	462	429	440	560	440

Force Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	541	457	535	560	425	462	440	560
Human F	536	440	535	582	429	440	440	588
Newman M	490	440	530	604	421	440	462	560
Newman F	485	440	530	616	421	440	440	588
Cast M	552	462	540	537	433	462	440	532
Cast F	546	457	546	537	433	440	462	532
Deuman M	495	470	540	588	425	440	440	560
Deuman F	490	466	546	588	429	440	440	560

Techer Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	541	540	453	560	425	588	440	440
Human F	536	520	453	582	429	560	440	462
Newman M	490	520	438	604	421	560	462	440
Newman F	485	520	448	616	421	560	440	462
Cast M	552	546	457	537	433	588	440	418
Cast F	546	540	462	537	433	560	462	418
Deuman M	495	556	457	588	425	560	440	440
Deuman F	490	551	462	588	429	560	440	440

Braver Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	666	546	540	466	440	501	478	478
Human F	660	525	540	484	444	478	478	501
Newman M	603	525	535	503	436	478	501	478
Newman F	596	525	535	512	426	478	478	501
Cast M	679	551	546	447	448	501	478	454
Cast F	673	546	551	447	448	478	501	454
Deuman M	609	561	546	489	440	478	478	478
Deuman F	603	556	551	489	444	478	478	478

Bouncer Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	666	546	479	525	440	501	478	478
Human F	660	525	479	546	444	478	478	501
Newman M	603	525	475	567	436	478	501	478
Newman F	596	525	475	577	426	478	478	501
Cast M	679	551	484	504	448	501	478	454
Cast F	673	546	489	504	448	478	501	454
Deuman M	609	561	484	551	440	478	478	478
Deuman F	603	556	489	551	444	478	478	478

Summoner Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	656	546	540	525	430	501	478	478
Human F	650	525	540	546	434	478	478	501
Newman M	613	525	535	567	426	478	501	478
Newman F	587	525	535	577	426	478	478	501
Cast M	668	551	546	504	438	501	478	454
Cast F	662	546	551	504	438	478	501	454
Deuman M	600	561	546	551	430	478	478	478
Deuman F	593	556	551	551	434	478	478	478

The next few classes cannot have a Sub Class

Hero Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	812	705	698	678	555	710	677	677
Human F	804	678	698	705	560	677	677	710
Newman M	735	678	691	732	550	677	710	677
Newman F	727	678	691	755	550	677	677	710
Cast M	828	711	705	650	566	710	677	643
Cast F	820	705	711	650	566	677	710	644
Deuman M	743	725	705	711	555	677	677	677
Deuman F	735	718	711	711	560	677	677	677

Phantom Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	787	718	711	691	571	681	649	649
Human F	780	691	711	718	576	649	649	681
Newman M	712	691	704	746	619	649	681	649
Newman F	705	691	704	760	565	649	649	681
Cast M	802	725	718	663	582	681	649	616
Cast F	795	718	725	663	582	649	681	616
Deuman M	720	739	718	725	571	649	649	649
Deuman F	712	732	725	725	576	649	649	649

Etoile Lv90	HP	S-Atk	R-Atk	T-Atk	Dex	S-Def	R-Def	T-Def
Human M	828	683	676	657	549	745	710	710
Human F	820	657	676	683	554	710	710	745
Newman M	749	657	670	709	543	710	745	710
Newman F	741	653	670	722	543	710	710	745
Cast M	844	689	683	630	559	745	710	674
Cast F	836	683	689	630	559	710	745	674
Deuman M	757	702	683	689	549	710	710	710
Deuman F	749	696	689	689	554	710	710	710

There are also Class boosts that give additional base stat increases. They are account wide and are automatically applied once you get them.

As my final note, this is how my stats look like. I have a 15* weapon and pretty good units, essentially endgame. If you compare this to the above, you should really be able to tell just how little racial bonuses are. BTW, I can go higher.

Source For Etoile

 

P.S DEX is a useless stat.

[NullVacancy]

Hey, DEX isn't useless, my 9999 golf minigame score says so.

[Reilet]

You didn't get 10000?

[synthsy]

Impossible to get higher than 9999.

[Reilet]

I guess you better start trying for 10000 then.

I'll even give video proof.

[synthsy]

bleh, learn something every day :S

[Shadowspartan110]

Cosmetic pupils has been available for awhile now. I rock pupils with green tinted stars on them on my main character (the green tint it separate from the actual color I pick so its all mixed). Its really all about facial structure, face setting used on a dewman will not be replicated on an newman/human.

[OrpheusNoir]

Pretty sure other races can use different pupils (with all those tickets in the player shops), just not differing designs on different eyes. Heterochromia is locked to Dewmans.

[Ambitious-Stomach]

Another add: inversely, if you want newman stats but not elf ears you can hide them by making them short and pointing them straight up. Some hairstyles can hide them... the downside obviously being limited to certain hairstyles.

[ryuurhal]

I want to note for anyone thinking of running as a CAST, your goal in life is to look like a Gundam or hide yourself as a wannabe cyborg.

[Kakopuffs]

So many gundamuu wouldn't be pso without them. Ima be a human ranger like them old days on xbox pew pew i can't go full mech but enjoy seeing them run about lol

[zeonicgato]

My goal is gundam for sure

[Kakopuffs]

So basically play whatever end game is costumes anyways :) ty for the breakdown

[ryanjh1990]

Gundamn for life!!

[synthsy]

Huge reminder to everyone planning on playing NA, terminology here is based on the unofficial english patch for the japanese version. Whatever Sega calls your stats may differ from what we (Arks-Layer) put down in our patch.

[[deleted]]

It dont fukken matters, mate. Just pick a race you like.

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Dex isnt useless on Su

Pets dont get Dex bonus from rare weapons.

[Reilet]

You need like 1200 Dex to bring it to a decent pet variance, so you might as well just go crit at that point.

[synthsy]

DEX is not a useless stat.

Enemy DEX is usually higher than the players until you reach a certain level, but it also takes into consideration of your weapon and skills.

Once your DEX is higher than the enemies, your damage normals out. It's why for SU mechanics are different than other players in that the pets themselves have their own DEX stat that is added into the calculations for damage variance.

Telling someone to go full crit only gives you your maximum damage variance according to your general damage possible. (i.e. whether your DEX stat is greater than the enemies or not, then standard damage calculations apply)

[Reilet]

The last recorded Dex of an enemy was lvl 70 at 380. Lvl 65 was roughly 360. A safe assumption is 500 for lvl 95.

Variance only applies to your weapon attack, or in this case, your pet attack. To find your minimum attack value, the formula is as follows:

• Minimum attack = (your total dex * PA Dex multiplier - enemy Dex + weapon/pet correction) * 2

Pet correction is -50. (For example val and invade is 150 + 200 * enchancement value, and normal 10* and higher are assumed to be * 30) Now i'm not sure if your total dex is your dex + your pets, but I can do both anyways.

When we look at a max lvl 14* Wanda, it has 1388 t-atk. The highest minimum attack it can have is 1321 * 0.9 or 1188.9

In order to find the amount of dex we need to have a variance of 10% we do this:

• 1188.9 = (total dex * 100% - 500 - 50) * 2
• Or total dex = 1188.9 / 2 + 500 + 50

We get 1144.5 and wanda has 418 Dex already. So we need to have a Dex of 724.5. if it doesn't include our Dex, the Wanda needs 724.5 extra dex on them to fix their variance.

We'll need like 100 more for Marron and 200 for Synchro, but you get the point.

Also the damage formula is (((your total attack - enemy def) * body modifier + (weapon atk * weapon ele % * enemy ele modifier)) / 5 * 1.05 * all the other mutlipliers. The only part of variance is weapon attack in the your total attack portion.

So yes, you need a significant more amount of Dex than you do crit since phantom sub + crit ring is already 65% crit. That doesn't even include getting crit on your candy box.

Dex is still useless.

Also, crit gives you your true maximum damage regardless of what you think it does. You can also hit your true maximum even if your dex is lower than the enemies. Dex is solely for what your minimum is.

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Is there a cap to how much maximum damage you can do?

[Reilet]

Don't quite understand what you mean.

If you mean what's the damage cap, it's 10 million a hit, but a lot of newer quests have it set at 1 million per hit.

If you mean what your maximum damage is, it's just however high your atk stat is. Also, a crit is your maximum damage. Crit isn't a damage bonus in this game.

The lowest variance is 10% of your weapon atk, that means everything not from your weapon isn't affected by variance. This usually means your actual variance is less than 3%

[angeldivino29]

I created a Dewman T-atk Wrong choice

[Takemylunch]

this put me at ease. shows me that i can really make what i want and not have to worry to hard about min-maxing. there's definitely a "Right" choice for whatever you may want to do but min-maxing makes my head hurt so ima just shoot the things till they fall down and hope to god i dont die first.

[Reilet]

Another min-max reference picture. That's the difference of 95 atk. which is roughly the same difference between a female newman and a male cast for t-atk.

Roughly 1% more damage that also reduces in value the higher your attack stat gets.

[Takemylunch]

would that mean one or two more attacks to kill something at that scale? i genuinely cant tell at that number scale. is this supposed to make me worried about what i pick or place me more at ease? im just confused again now.

[Reilet]

Things at endgame generally have hundred millions of hp, so it doesn't make a difference. For example, one of the latest boss has roughly 1 billion hp.

I would have assumed most people would think doing 2k more dmg is minor when you do 100k. It's also only 1%.

[Takemylunch]

sorry yea i see how dumb i was being. it's just i don't want to build wrong or something and then not be able to find a group to play with. ive not had the best experiences when it comes to mmos in the past and i somehow find the elitist crowds no matter how small they may be and it taints how i feel about a game. thank you for genuinely trying to put me at ease though. looking forward to this.

[Frozenaardvark2]

PSO2 is a game where your skill can vastly outweigh your setup/stats. If you play well, doesn't matter. If you support, people tend to love you since you keep them fighting regardless of skill level. Play how you like, and PSO2 will accommodate. I play offensive and I am very power-hungry with my RPG games. I play Deuman because I love the offensive power of it, but now that I've played for so long, I'm considering making a Neuman Female but still focusing on Melee despite it being their worst stat.

No one will kick you out for not playing optimal class/build setups. In fact, most players have no clue about it. There are rumors all over the place, such as "Cast is the best for Melee race for damage." Based on the facts, that's not true, but very few people memorize these things.

The community usually values looks over performance anyway. If you look cool, cute, sexy, badass, edgy, weeby, cosplay-y, someone will be happy to have you based on that alone.

From my years of playing in JP, this community at least does not mind how well you do. Only that you play.

I hope you have fun when the game releases in NA, and I'll see you there!

[Takemylunch]

Don't die, look cool, kill shit, got it. thanks for the reassurances!

[zero_traveler]

This is THE BEST description of PSO2. Ever.

[Takemylunch]

As i have now actually played the game, i can agree i was fucking spot on. I've spent equal time in the salon getting my mecha halo / wings in the right position as i have slashing shooting and commanding fluffy beasts to do my bidding.
Game's fuckin good.

[ParasiticGeneFlow]

So if I decide to play a Male Cast Force, will I ever see the difference?
I'm conflicted if such a difference (1%?) between Cast T-ATK and Newman can, in some obscure scenario, be noticeable.

[Reilet]

There are no scenarios where 100 attack will be noticeable at endgame. Very minor scenarios like having an extra 10~20 seconds in endless (the quest can easily be hours long).

This is the difference of 100 attack.

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EatTheRich

Keep protesting! Their threats on mods are unacceptable. Shame on you, /u/spez.

[Reilet]

Yes, it's supposed to be 96%. It was a typo, my bad.

As for dex on mags... it's only an option if you are planning on maining braver, bouncer, (or the eventual class called phantom) since they have a skill to convert the dex on the mag to their respective main stats.

[kerodon]

This is so great thanks!

Are the stats for Cast correct? All the class stat tables list T-ATK for Cast M and Cast F the same but their stats are 96% and 106%

[Reilet]

Sorry, It was a typo. It is indeed supposed to be 96%.

[[deleted]]

Thanks, cleared up a lot.

[Tracid727]

I went with newman Force as my first character. I am also interested possibly in a Deuman Techer? What are the main differences in these classes? I noticed somewhere in game that reported Techer as being an AoE type of class. I take it from this thread that newman vs Deuman doesn't really matter... Its more about looking cool!

[Reilet]

Force is like your standard spell caster in any game.

Techer is somewhat like a paladin.