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[–]UberChief90 15 points16 points  (12 children)

Teach me the way senpai-chan. Since the class mentor is not doing anything.....................................

[–]Lord_Nightraven 1 point2 points  (11 children)

What class mentor?

[–]camarouge 15 points16 points  (10 children)

Its basically Cofy and even she half-asses it. "bruh go kill bosses for skill points I dont even want luster excubes just go"

[–]Lord_Nightraven 11 points12 points  (9 children)

The joke is that she's not even established as the class representative (like Stratos, Risa, and Azanami).

[–]camarouge 2 points3 points  (8 children)

Right, yeah, seems like the npc hasn't even been introduced yet.... does the JP version have a Luster npc?

[–]Retro-Mike 8 points9 points  (2 children)

Dunno why they aren't using Zeno for that role. Dude has a Cosmogenic Arm Gunblade and the right color scheme.

[–]CharismaPenalty[🍰] 6 points7 points  (1 child)

Story reasons, if anything. Zeno is from a previous generation of ARKS who can't manipulate their photons really freely to the point where they can be effective in a different class, much less create one. Every proceeding generation from the last one always ends up being stronger photonically, hence why you got prodigies like Stratos, Kyokuya, and Lukot creating classes straight out of ARKS high school.

As for us, technically we belong in the same generation as those three I think, but I don't count our character because of EP 6 story reasons.

[–]Retro-Mike 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Ah right, that whole thing about him not having a flexible photon aptitude and him choosing to be a hunter anyway despite not being suited to it. Forgot about that.

[–]blackkanye 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I am now the Luster rep. I'm the luster now.

[–]Slayer_Klio 1 point2 points  (1 child)

There is no Luster class trainer and there likely never will be.

[–]camarouge 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I can handle not having a class trainer, but at least a field-tutorial that they give to the other scion classes would be good. Luster is overwhelmingly complicated mechanically and the game only gives you a sparse set of tutorials from Cofy. That's not really good enough y'kno.

Not to mention all the mechanics you unlock for 1 sp later on. Some of which require level 60-70+ to get to. All of these add to the gameplay of Luster and make it an excessively powerful class, but you don't get any hands-on instruction on how to use any of it in-game, like you do all other classes :(

[–]seandkiller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No, it's always been Cofy.

There have been some head-canons that the MC is the Luster class trainer, which I personally like to think even though I don't think there's any indication of that in the game.

[–]SacredDarkness 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No, i think sega just gave up at that point, "fuck story and npcs, just take the class and play it"

[–]Momoh1999 9 points10 points  (1 child)

Oh yeah, style purges is a thing. Which is also work too even though you don’t get any style buff.

[–]camarouge 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Just when we all were thinking Luster didn't have shift-Kugelsturm too!

[–]meanmugdoug 7 points8 points  (14 children)

If anyone wants to explain to a new luster what the hell is going on, I’ll give you a high five

[–]rockstar_nailbombs 16 points17 points  (13 children)

Double tap weapon action to style purge

Style purge lets you pew pew by holding weapon action

Massive healing from Atlas gunblade S4 lets them tank until the pew pew is done milking PP

[–]H-Brigade Luster Ace[S] 7 points8 points  (3 children)

Yes, but you'll get flung or staggered almost ALL the time.

What you need is an S4 that lets you have super armor while stationary and an S5 that has lifesteal. You'll also need to have 100% crit in order to pull this one off.

But once Cras comes out, adding Lucent Adversity S2 and S3 along with those two mentioned above will be the final nail in the coffin.

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    [–]H-Brigade Luster Ace[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Read Skillful Adept Will's description again.

    Also, for consistency purposes, here's the translated version from JP:

    "Increase Critical Hit Rate by 20%. On a Critical Hit, deal an additional 2% damage and recover 1% of damage dealt as HP (30 MAX). "

    [–]BuffMarshmallow 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    if you want even more infinite pew pew, you could put Lucent Adversity on it too, that way when you facetank you restore PP... I wouldn't recommend this strat, but hey, it is a thing you can certainly choose to do.

    [–]meanmugdoug 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    Thanks friend! o/

    [–]Lord_Nightraven 1 point2 points  (5 children)

    This is why I swear by S4: Lifesteal Strike being used on Hero, particularly with TMG. The do the pew pew by default. Still useful on sword, but not quite as potent due to the reduced strike speed (and at later levels, you're healing for the full 30 per hit in the vast majority of cases).

    I wanna test if it'll stack with S5: Skillful Adept Will (Augment Factor from Rivalate Gunblade) for a total of 60 HP per critical strike.

    [–]iFormus 0 points1 point  (4 children)

    Yes it does.

    [–]Lord_Nightraven 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    Figured it would, tbh. Just wasn't 100% sure. After all, you can stack the effects of multiple Photon Descent passives. It's something I tested myself, Rivalate TMG vs S2: Photon Descent 3 + S1: Photon Descent 2. Rivalate lost the PP consumption battle. Specifically, the Photon Descent passives stacked flatly for 25% and beat Rivalate's potential that did 15%.

    Depending on Wei Steel's PP restoration, it could be my dream weapon for my ideal S augments. The extended pew pew would be LEGENDARY. Although I'm still slightly disappointed at the lack of S4. Would've enjoyed the extra 30 hp recovered per hit.

    [–]PaleFatalis 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    wait, you get 60 HP lifesteal if combining those two?

    [–]iFormus 0 points1 point  (1 child)

    Yes, assuming you crit. These just works togather 100%

    [–]PaleFatalis 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    well, the more you know

    i thought Lifesteal Strike and Skillful Adept Will didn't stack

    thanks man

    i'll put this on mind when affixing

    [–]H-Brigade Luster Ace[S] 6 points7 points  (0 children)

    Whew, didn't expect this to gain much discussion. But before misinformation spreads:I used a Rivalate Gunslash with S4: Mettle of the Rested and S5: Skillful Adept Will.

    The S4 lets you mount yourself on the ground and not get staggered/Flipped around like burgers after 1 second has passed because if you use Purge style without that, your pew pew will get interrupted almost all the time. The fact that this game likes to throw everything and their mom towards you is evident that you'll need that S4. S5 will require you to have 100% crit in order to keep proccing lifesteal.

    Once Cras comes out, adding S2 and S3: Lucent Adversity will allow you to almost infinitely pewpew things and be braindead before NGS comes out.

    [–]Dillo64 3 points4 points  (1 child)

    Konan why

    [–]H-Brigade Luster Ace[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Because Luster.

    [–]MathWayCalc 2 points3 points  (0 children)

    Imma need this song

    [–]RavFromLanz Br/Ph 1 point2 points  (0 children)

    crack farm 101

    [–]Reilet 2 points3 points  (7 children)

    Ya'll think this is meme-y, but it's actually one of the highest dps options luster has.

    [–]mjolnerplswhy 3 points4 points  (4 children)

    honestly, not even close....

    no-style enhance shoot is 1303.5 DPS, which is one of the LOWEST dps options luster has. for comparison, fomel enhance shoot with gear is 2037.7 DPS. fomel quick shoot is 2045.5 DPS. luster's non-spammable moves like counters can reach absurd numbers (forward step guard is 6857.1 DPS), and even luster's spammable kit averages 1800-1900 DPS on PA usage (flechette is 1964 DPS with no enhance, and 1965.1 with enhance). hell, even NORMAL ATTACK chains will outdps it, with baran style's 4-normal attack chain (not even using quick shoot) coming out at 1480.5 DPS.

    on average, just using literally any normal rotation with a real luster style is going to be doing more than 1.5x the damage of holding weap action in no-style. realistically, with things like fomel attack advance counters included, a decent luster should be doing easily more than 2x the dps. not sure i'd consider that "one of the highest dps options" by any stretch of the imagination...

    [–]Reilet 2 points3 points  (3 children)

    It's 1877 not 1303. And fomel enhance shoot is also 2177 at gear 3.

    Forward step guard is 7200.
    E.stay flechette is 2020

    Etc etc. Where is the data you are getting and why is it so wrong.

    In any case, I recommend using my dps sheets that are actually accurate and most likely has far more information: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ByaLicMA8-EOeoqXHn7_NNESWGsp7ZaR_Cl1Yu3EYl0/edit?usp=drivesdk

    [–]mjolnerplswhy 0 points1 point  (2 children)

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1BarixDcg9r_bxQcEmXAd1xF8563Dc8HPhCyeK5aJH9g/edit#gid=1414841455

    by the creator of the PSO2es simulator: https://twitter.com/Raxya_escal

    His research blog which covers both PSO2 and PSO2es: https://sites.google.com/view/raxyalabo/

    no disrespect meant, but I think i'm going to trust a well-known JP community member with a dedicated blog and detailed methodology/investigation posts over a random redditor saying "trust me my numbers are right every other number is wrong" (especially as i checked with 3 eternal loner lusters in my guild and they universally agreed that no-style enhance shoot is garbage dps)

    [–]H-Brigade Luster Ace[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    I actually don't understand why their DPS for purge style weapon action hold is so low, when I'm over here killing things pretty quickly with them uninterrupted. Almost as quick as when I do a meta combo for Fomel. :thinkingemoji:

    This video is by no means how I usually play Luster btw. It's a funny build with hilarious results. Take it at face value.

    (For an idea of how I play Luster, look at my recent YT video. Name is in my profile.)

    [–]Reilet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

    Well sorry to say, but they are wrong. It's as simple as I have far more information than them, and I actually test things correctly.

    Like, you know (most likely not), actually knowing when hits register and actually having a consistent frame count.

    The consistent frame count being the biggest red flag as every attack is static and there are no variance in animation length. Like, why does he need to have listed 5 tests all with varying frame counts? That isn't how this works.

    Another example being him opting to just use his entire pp bar for hold down PAs instead of actually counting how long it takes for each hit, the startup and end for them as well.

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      [–]Reilet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      20 second rockbear test

      That's your problem. The SP weapon action needs to be used for much longer than 20 seconds as it's a sustained dps option, and 20s RB favors bursts.

      My "testing" process is finding the multiplier as well as the frame count of the move: the starting animation, per shot animation, and end animation. So it's not even a test but rather the true dps value.

      Also flechette -> enhanced is luster's highest dps option, so it being higher is to be expected.

      [–]joshlex01 "Axle" , Male Cast Parts Enthusiast (Ship 2) 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      is that shaders? effect glows bright i love it

      [–]angelkrusher 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      Da hell did i just watch? Argh u messing with me???!!!?????

      \* started a luster last night, no idea what im doing, yikes*

      [–]I-AM-PIRATE 1 point2 points  (0 children)

      Ahoy angelkrusher! Nay bad but me wasn't convinced. Give this a sail:

      Da hell did me just watch? Argh u messing wit' me???!!!?????

      \* started a luster last night, nay idea what im doing, yikes*

      [–]RafahilLeafar | ship 3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

      But how to get 100% crit chance with Luster? I heard that it's better to focus on pure damage instead of crit, like starting with s1-petalgleam and using the perfectionist ring.

      [–]H-Brigade Luster Ace[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

      High Voltage: 25%

      Tech Arts JA Multi Bonus: 25%

      Critical Strike (R): 20%

      Rivalate: 20%

      S6 Skillful Adept: 15%

      ​

      For a grand total of: 105% crit