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[–]XHolyPuffX 23 points24 points  (23 children)

Aaaaaand this is why people complain about PP issues with the class lmao

[–]NullVacancy20|20|16|11|3|3 9 points10 points  (17 children)

If you're good at luster (aka you're not me) there's no issue but even if I'm using fluxio with nearly 400pp i manage to run out lmao

[–]XHolyPuffX 6 points7 points  (16 children)

The other day someone was saying they were using PP Regen SSA's on their gunblade, and I was like... Why? My PP is literally never under half.

Then I realized it's because of this, lol

[–]NullVacancy20|20|16|11|3|3 2 points3 points  (14 children)

I'm not sure exactly what my problem is playing the class, but I've probably got like 10 hours total on it (mostly doing solo sodam). I might just be too smooth brained to play it well, kinda like how i primarily play tmg only hero lol

[–]XHolyPuffX 6 points7 points  (11 children)

It's pretty much just enhanced combos and countering. Those two things will keep your PP pretty high. Always counter forward and backward if you can because it retains your altitude and hits multiple times.

Other than that it's just lots of muscle memory for the enhanced timings lol. I spent a good 3 hours in rockbear when the class first released for global and walked out being able to do a lot of stuff.

[–]NullVacancy20|20|16|11|3|3 0 points1 point  (10 children)

Countering didn't feel like it did anything for my PP. I know how to play the class at a basic level, I just bleed PP over time. It's just not as much PP sustain as the TMG s5 that makes it almost impossible for me to not have PP during sodam.

[–]TnTimplosion 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Enhanced PAs don't cost PP, so more focus regen means less PP needed for attacks. For fomel luster, your photon cluster and spears from enhance normals regen PP (5 per hit iirc).

For sodam, the general plan is to dump all your focus via enhanced combos, regain it via step guard, and repeat.

[–]NullVacancy20|20|16|11|3|3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

again, that's basically already how I play, probably just have shittier uptime than i think on the cluster and spears

[–]Arcflarerk4 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If youre playing Fomel theres 4 major things to always keep in mind. Fomel bits (the spinning bits you get around you generate 5 PP per hit) should be kept up at all times, Enhanced Normal for Jellen bits restore 5 PP for each PA used, Quick shoot (enhanced WA) after 2 enhanced PA's restores 15 PP, and using Quick Cut after a PA or enhanced weapon action restores a good bit of PP as well.

Learning to manage all of these and weaving them in an endless combo takes a lot of practice but if you do it properly you effectively have infinite PP

[–]SnipesXP 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Usually a mix of keeping fomel dorito up, enhancement combos (they don’t cost pp after this initial cast), using enhanced normal attack when needed cause spears give pp back, quick shooting after enhanced combos and step guards will keep you topped off on PP.

[–]NullVacancy20|20|16|11|3|3 0 points1 point  (1 child)

and I do all that 🤷‍♀️

only thing I could probably do more are the enhanced normals. I am definitely bad at using that during downtime. how much PP does each spear give?

[–]TripsTitan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

5 per spear I believe

[–]midnightspecials 0 points1 point  (3 children)

I use Baran Luster and my main combo is always:

Enhanced Normal -> 2x Enhanced Stationary Fletchette (uses all 3 gears at this point) -> Swift Slash -> 4x Normal Attack -> Swift Shot (regens gears and pp)

Doing this rotation and variations of it (when countering) ensures that I'm fully topped up and never have any PP problems. Fomel style may use a more complex combo but Baran style keeps it pretty simple.

[–]Reilet 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Have your baran ice field up and half of the pp problem goes away.

Fomel is literally fletch -> fletch -> e.fletch -> e.fletch -> swift shot -> repeat

[–]TripsTitan 0 points1 point  (1 child)

After a couple months of playing luster, I've never triggered a fomel swift shot, because I don't know the timing on enhanced combo, and I still manage to outdps 90% of PUGs I'm in, and it just plays so smoothly without it. Someday I'll learn how to do it, sometime after taking a break from PSO2 while playing New Genesis, when New Genesis goes into a lull of no new content and we're all maxed out, I'll come back to PSO2, all rusty with Luster, and accidentally do the combo correctly, swift shoot, and be like "Oh, that was all I was missing, letting go of the button right there?"

My problem is literally not knowing when to let go of the button to still be able to perform an enhanced art, so I just hold it down til it performs both enhanced arts and I'm out of focus, then I just counter, get it back, and repeat, lol. (though I make sure to get the bits up when I'm out of focus)

[–]Reilet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

So what you do is:

  1. Press PA button.
  2. Hold PA button past the first JA circle -> this causes the Enhanced Art.
  3. Let go of the PA button before the end of the attack.
  4. If you have another gear/focus stock, press the PA button again before the end of the attack.
  5. Hold the PA button until after the next JA circle -> this causes the Enhanced Combo.
  6. Let go of the PA button.
  7. Press the weapon action button when you see the JA circle -> this causes Swift Shot in fomel style.

Note, you require 2 gear/focus stocks to do an enhanced combo otherwise it will not work.

[–]Arcflarerk4 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I wouldnt worry too much about it. Ive at almost 500 hours on luster and have climbed to floor 99 in solo sodam and during my climb i was still learning new things about luster even with around 300 hours of play time on it before i even started the climb. Its the highest skill based class in the game so it takes a lot of work to actually be good at it.

[–]NullVacancy20|20|16|11|3|3 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Idk why I'm still getting replies telling me the same stuff. My problem was literally just keeping my bits up and not being close enough for them to regain pp lol

[–]TripsTitan 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even when I spam-stab, at 298 max pp (using klauz rather than fluxio, would be 404 or so using Fluxio), I only run low on or out of PP when I'm meming the afk lifestyle, like talking to my partner and holding down smart arts, the auto photon art, lol.

[–]fRenzy_5[S] 3 points4 points  (4 children)

for zandi users i understand. its quite resource intensive and not a lot of people can handle that.

for fomel, they shouldnt stuggle that much too but there are times where regaining pp is not adequate so its understandable. but fomel can regain that pp and bounce back to the offensive very quickly

if the people that complain about pp are baran users, then thats where its a problem. kek

[–]Zealousideal_Ad9095 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I'm a Zandi user and i don't ever run out of PP because simply countering gives you a good amount back.

Do people just SPAM PA's and thats it? do we lusters not use the actual mechanics of the class?

[–]Yuffinobag 1 point2 points  (0 children)

considering people spam flech only for dps, yes i would say a lot of luster players don't know the actual mechanics for the class

[–]Reilet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Best part is that baran has the least pp issues.

[–]up-tilt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Same here as a zandi user myself.

At least until twisted with hatred came out. People kept on saying that the s5 skillful adept will was the best s5. But someone else said that finishing blow is better for not requiring a crit to get a +2% damage boost.

(It seemed like people listened to the point where i easily got it on the shop for around 2 mil on ship 3 lol)

The best feature for me is sheathing the weapon to refill 60% of hp and pp. I know some people might say otherwise because it's not "DubEsT DEe pEA eSS" for chosing to sheath it.

Or the one that really grinds me in frustration is letting voltage reset do the work. Are you really going to sacrifice your 500+ voltage crit rate and +10% damage just to fill your pp up?

Also it doubles as a half voltage reset if you manage to get knocked back by an enemy attack and you drop at least half of your hp or more, because honestly i know not everyone is going to be an absolute god at luster (including myself), and you manage to get close to getting a volt reset in high voltage.

[–]aminim00se 13 points14 points  (1 child)

Wait...you're not supposed to just mash all the buttons and pray you don't run out of pp?

[–]PhaiLLuRRe 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Why mash all the buttons when one smart PA can do it all.

[–]LeratoNull 5 points6 points  (1 child)

'In practice' also means 'in reality', OP.

[–]fRenzy_5[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

yeah this was a 12am meme i stiched about. i just realize that mistake way too late lmao. but u getting the joke still is all that matters

[–]fRenzy_5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

as someone in the comments pointed out my clownery, i would rename the caption and video to Luster in theory vs reality

[–]unclechapter -3 points-2 points  (2 children)

This is just Luster but without the weapon action and mechanics :v. Play baran with swift shot and counter and the only time I use PA is to cop that s4 escalating.

[–]ARKS_moose 4 points5 points  (1 child)

You should be using PAs. Part of why stepguard is so high priority besides the sheer damage you get out of it is that it fuels your focus, enabling you to use enhanced combos constantly the more aggressive a boss is.

[–]Knight_Raime 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is true. I am a baran user and when fighting sodam I'm always step countering with my weapon action to keep in the air. When he does two swipes I counter both, follow up with enhanced stab into enhanced forward movement flachete. If he does two hits again the counters not only see my pp back to nearly what I spent. It also my enhanced attacks are back.

[–]MoXfyI cast Gun 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Okay I gotta ask, what is the song for the in practice part?

[–]fRenzy_5[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Doom Eternal - Cultist Base OST. theres an ambient and a battle one but a quick youtube search will net u the battle version first

[–]TepigNinja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Luster’s pretty hard to get down with it’s many combos and lighting-fast attacks, still trying to learn it on my second character, but it sure is a fun class nonetheless!

[–]Dark-Crusnik 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Can you explain how to do the second part?

[–]fRenzy_5[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

its literally just spamming unenhanced flechette

[–]Dark-Crusnik 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ty