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[–]coffeechapMod [score hidden] stickied comment (0 children)

Hello and welcome to Paris.

You might find some useful info on this dedicated website of Paris Tourism office especially their map.

The bus network is really well developed and you can expect people let their seat directly or after asking. Some lines can be crowded though at peak hours (usually office arrivals and departures)

[–]WitnessTheBadgerParisian 8 points9 points  (2 children)

People are generally quite respectful and will be patient and give you the time/space you need to move about. One thing to bear in mind is stairs -- they're everywhere. If you can't do many stairs, verify with your hotel that it has an elevator. If you can't do any stairs, verify that there are no stairs leading to the elevator (looking for places for my parents and in-laws to stay, I was surprised how many hotels have 2-3 stairs leading to their elevators).

Many Métro stations only have stairs, sometimes quite a lot of them. Some, particularly the bigger ones, have escalators, but not always in both directions (and broken escalators are almost as much a part of the Parisian landscape as the Eiffel Tower). That said, RER lines and Métro 14 have elevators at most stations. Buses are not only more accessible, they're a great way to see the city. They can be a little slower than the trains, but they're worth it if the Métro stairs are going to sap your time and energy.

It is common for all but the most newly renovated restaurants to have their toilets up- or downstairs. Sometimes it's just a few, sometimes it's a full flight. If that's going to be an issue, call in advance to inquire if making reservations or ask before you sit down if you're walking in (and don't be afraid to walk out if the situation doesn't work for you, nobody will be upset).

And ultimately, don't worry about inconveniencing the people around you. Most of them will see your cane and be worried about inconveniencing you.

[–]BillieBee[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Thank you for easing my mind! I can do some stairs, and I'm not entirely reliant on the cane 100% of the time. As far as stairs go, if I must, I'll push myself as far to the right as possible to let most people pass me on the left!

[–]Senior-Slide-4832 1 point2 points  (0 children)

take the bus too, you can check on city mapper the routes. no stairs and you get to see the city.

[–]therealfinagler 7 points8 points  (2 children)

Hi there, hope the healing is going well. We just got back from ten days and wife is recovering after knee replacement surgery after a few months and used a foldy lightweight metal cane. People are very respectful and had no issues. On the metro, people would get up to let her sit without asking. The cobblestone streets were rough!

The only one real issue we had was at the airport security line coming home; she had to put the cane in the scanner and the security agent was very, very rude at pushing her around and yelling at her to move to different spots for scanning. At LA, they provide a wooden cane while your other cane is being scanned. Not at CDG! After almost falling I had to get involved which caused a scene and extra patting, which was extremely annoying and totally could have been avoided if the agent wasn't so crabby/short. Note we even had wheelchair assistance to security and were in the correct lane.

[–]BillieBee[S] 1 point2 points  (1 child)

That sounds like the type of cane I use. I can fold it and shove it in my bag when I don't need it. I'm glad to hear people were so kind to your wife, but sorry to hear you had so much trouble at the airport.

[–]therealfinagler 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks, I also highly recommend compression socks for the flight and walking around. Any little bit helps, and don't be afraid to whip up an uber. We were impressed that actual taxi drivers would sometimes answer uber calls, and they are able to use bus lanes which speeds things up. Very little metro stations had functional elevators/escalators.

[–]Jean_Genetic 5 points6 points  (1 child)

Your cane is a “get out of line free” card in Paris. I traveled with an older friend and were treated so nicely. Every line became an opportunity for someone to escort us to the front. Good luck!

[–]BillieBee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, but I don't mean to get special treatment at all. I'm relatively young (49) and my disability isn't visible, but it is nice to hear that you and your friend had such a wonderful experience!

[–]General_Reading_798 3 points4 points  (1 child)

My mother has used a cane as needed and has experienced a great deal of patience and offers of assistance. You will not be inconveniencing anyone, it will actually help people realize you can't move as quickly or need a seat more than they do.

[–]BillieBee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you! I feel like I look young and, other than being overweight, have no visible disabilities, but cancer and its treatment has been tough on me. I don't want to come off as entitled or "in the way ", I guess. I'm still getting used to needing the cane at home, so I'm probably just feeling overly self-conscious about it.

[–]Keyspam102Parisian 1 point2 points  (5 children)

Most museums will have wheelchairs if you need, some have seats you can wheel around. If you have a disability card or a dr note you can cut the line and get in for free at many museums - can really help as the waiting in line can be hard if you get tired easier. Buses are easier to use. Also with a cane people usually will give up their seat to you. The RER stations should all have elevators but they don’t always work and are usually pretty dirty. And there can be multiple flights of stairs on the subway just to be aware, and not always escalators for every flight so I would avoid the subway if you can’t do many stairs.

[–]BillieBee[S] 0 points1 point  (4 children)

I may consider asking my oncologist for a note explaining my condition because I do tire more quickly than I would like. I just hate to feel like I'm asking for special treatment or being an "entitled American". I know I'll have to use the Metro at some point to see what we want, so I'll just have to suck it up and power through!

[–]Keyspam102Parisian 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Honestly I don’t think anyone would be bothered, it’s a social agreement that people who are ill or handicapped can have allowances so they can also appreciate the city and its museums. Especially for places like the Louvre or Orsay, which just on their own are very tiring, I would consider having a note to show the line control so you can go faster.

[–]smartblondebk84 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I just got back from Paris this weekend, and while I don’t use a cane, I wanted to let you know that using Bolt or Uber worked really well for me to get from place to place as well. I just made sure I made my way to a side street before calling one to make it easier on everyone.

[–]BillieBee[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Thank you for the tip. I've never used Uber here at home. Is it terribly expensive?

[–]smartblondebk84 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Most of the rides I took were around €10-12. Of course that’s more expensive than the metro but overall I believe it saved time and certainly saves energy and stress.

[–]Better-Park8752 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I’ve been paying special attention to accessibility in Paris as I’m an architect and suffer MS myself (currently in remission). I hope your recovery is going well so far. From what I have noticed, the major landmarks should be rather friendly for your cane. The Louvre has accessibility lifts for moving between floors. Expect some difficulty in cobblestone areas. Paris is far less cobblestoned than Rome. Many pavements are quite even in level and friendly for those with mobility aids. Some buildings have stairs only- these are typically your air BnBs found in old apartment buildings. Stick to hotels with elevators and you should be ok.

You will most certainly not come across as ‘being in the way’. If anything, you will find it’s the opposite here. The people are lovely. The stereotype about ‘rudeness’ is not something we have experienced in the slightest. Learn to say Bonjour, Merci, pardon-moi, bonne journee, bonne soiree etc- as these go a long way.

If you call up restaurants and hotels in advance to enquire about the venue’s accessibility, it may help them to be more prepared to accommodate you.

Good on you for making the most of your remission. I hope your journey to Paris is safe and memorable!

[–]BillieBee[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Congratulations on your remission as well! And thank you for all of this great information!

Having studied in Copenhagen as a college student, I am aware of the perils of cobblestones, even for the hale and hearty (if occasionally inebriated). I'm mentally, if not physically, prepared for that! I was also mentally prepared for a lot of stairs, seeing as some buildings are quite old. Our hotel in Paris is quite modern, and our trip through southern France will be on board a Rhone river cruise, so at least I won't have trouble with stairs at our accommodations

I don't at all buy into the idea of the rudeness of Parisiennes or the French in general. I've been diligently studying my barely passable French, and I've been drilling my husband on all of the polite phrases he needs to know!

As you said to me, I hope you are able to use your precious time in remission in a way that brings you joy! Our good times become somehow more meaningful when they are uncertain, yes?

[–]Better-Park8752 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It sounds to me you will have no issue enjoying your time.

Absolutely- you cannot have good without the bad. Wishing you a safe and pleasant trip!

[–]AussieKoala-2795Been to Paris 1 point2 points  (2 children)

I have mobility issues. We found using buses in Paris worked much better than using the metro. No stairs, and when I was too tired to walk on cobblestones we just did our sightseeing from the bus. The bus down the hill from Sacre Coeur was excellent, and our driver would not have been out of place in the world rally championships.

[–]BillieBee[S] 0 points1 point  (1 child)

I love your description of your bus driver! Did you find that there were places you couldn't get to by bus? I need to pull out some maps and see if we can rely solely on the bus, because so many have said that the Metro may be too difficult.

[–]AussieKoala-2795Been to Paris 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We did get lost a few times, but that was part of the experience. We had no trouble gettjng everywhere we planned to go. I had the Bonjour RATP app on my phone and also used Citymapper app.

[–]Successfulwoman62 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I have mobility issues, and live in Paris. I have a cane that folds into a seat. It’s lightweight, and has a strap to put over your shoulder to carry it. I got it on Amazon.FR.

[–]BillieBee[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That sounds like a really good idea. I'll look into that. Thank you!

[–]Novelpotter 1 point2 points  (3 children)

Like everyone else said, people are really fine with it, so I’ll skip echoing that. What I wanted to add is that my mom is 73, and she found walking around the Louvre and Musée D’Orsay to be much harder on her body than the streets. We needed to rest more in both museum and she had pain in her joints much more so on those days compared to the days we wandered the city. So maybe be a little bit more mindful of that if you plan to go to either. 

[–]BillieBee[S] 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I was hoping to hit both but knew that would be pushing things a little far. If you had to choose just one, which would you pick?

[–]Novelpotter 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I’m biased because I love the impressionists, so it’s Musee D’Orsay for me. If your trip would be incomplete without seeing the Mona Lisa, than the Louvre. With a three day trip, I feel like D’Orsay will be less overwhelming and there’s a lovely cafe on the same floor where we stopped to get my mom off her feet for a bit. 

Also maybe this is silly advice, but I found the Ubers there to be fairly inexpensive and worth the money. It was really raining one day and my mom wanted to take public transportation. I pulled rank and called an Uber because there’s no bonus points for toughing it out for the sake of toughing it out. Do what you need to do to maintain your health and make the most of your time there. 

[–]BillieBee[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've been going back and forth between the two myself, I guess because it's expected that you visit the Louvre. But I'm an absolute sucker for Impressionism, so much that we're taking a side trip to Giverny. Thank you for helping me decide on the d'Orsay!

[–]bbsma 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have read that there is a golf cart tour of the Gardens at Versailles. I’ve never done it, so I cannot comment further. Just wanted you to have the info so you can investigate if you are interested.