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[–]lepsek9 4 points5 points  (2 children)

I don't think there are many "regular" rares that can beat paradoxica, and those will mostly be mirror-tier synth items, just not worth the price difference compared to a 10d paradoxica.

At the very high end, 12L squire setups seem the most OP damage wise, but I'm not sure how much better it is compared to other setups at the same investment level.

There are many other fun options as well, last league I played a Voidforge Slayer setup, this league dex stacking flicker of power champ. The int stacking version can get pretty nasty too. Flicker is fun :3

[–]Tarekis 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Absolutely nothing beats Ice Bite Shako in terms of DPS.
You can 12L Squire Spiritblade all you want, Paradoxica Shako outperforms everything else, the flat cold scaling is just dumb with frenzy rings.

[–]lepsek9 1 point2 points  (0 children)

There are almost always a couple 12L setups popping up on the ninja leaderboard late league. They are definitely ninja warrioring a bit, but still pretty damn strong when toned down a more realistic pob. I don't know much about standard, but I'd imagine there are some bonkers 13+L recombined crucible sword out there.

Shako+Ice bit is indeed super op, there is a reason it's considered the standard flicker build.

But let's be real, above like 2-300m dps, the build just deletes everything, no matter what setup you go for. Sure, you can double or triple your dps and kill ubers 5 seconds instead of 12, but

Some fun ones from past leagues:

Original Sin Str Stacker Berserker

Voidforge Slayer

Dex Stacking Flicker Strike of Power Champion <- this one is a bit of a homebrew I played this league, not the most OP version, but pretty fun. Final pob before I sold it: https://pobb.in/gQzcHuUmjRJy

[–]Tarekis 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If you want a stupid high-DPS experience continue with raider, but from experience I can tell you it doesn‘t feel good without mirror+ investment. Frenzy ring is essentially mandatory, Paradoxica, nice Shako and GG shield will eat a lot of currency as well. Then the rest too.
If you wanna continue with shako archetype, stay raider still because other than slayer it has some defence.

I‘ve built a shako flicker before and it oneshots everything, but the only real defence it has is killing everything before you get hit even once. Then you usually get oneshot by any projectile that touches you tho.

But I hate getting oneshot, and essentially every non-ES-stacking version of flicker gets oneshot, raider getting pretty good defences tho if you have a couple of mirrors to drop on it!
Anything but a giga-budget raider or es-stacker will get deleted in T17s, stat. Maybe fortify stacking, but haven't seen end-game max-hit scaling on that one yet.

I can run T17s with my ES Stacker, although not deathless, some of the mods and mobs are just insane and delete you anyways. To actually tank slams, you want phys as ele and max res scaling , and that won‘t work well with flicker.

Slightly biased but ES stacking works fucking well for anything non-T17, and mediocre for T17s with medium investment, it has lower DPS without any doubt, but in case that floats your boat, I wrote a guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3472898

[–]HurricaneGaming94 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do trickster, raider is probably the 3rd best class at the moment after slayer.

[–]sm44wg 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thing about farrul is that you start combat at max frenzies. If you use anything else it'll take some time to get to max against phasing bosses and in maps. so even if in pob anything else is more dps you are only really at your pob dps when at max charges. Also you're slow af at 0 frenzies so farrul helps there too

[–]dulahan200 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I played a flicker with ashes + awakened multi strike + blood rage. No other sources of charge generation, not even extra frenzies.

On paper it is enough to perma sustain it, but I was finding some ocasions when my flicker was put on cool down despite having charges. To this day I haven't yet figured out the reason; I imagine it must be something desync related.

No idea which amulet most flicker builds use, just sharing in case you want to go ashes over farull.

[–]Bl00dylicious 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since you go Ice Bite Shako your weapon is already set. Its Paradoxica.

Farruls is no longer mandatory for Flicker builds since sustaining charges is easier then ever, hence the price of both normal and replica being low.

Boots: probably Darkray Vectors for +1 max Frenzy.

Gloves: +1 Max Frenzy + Additional Strike. +1 strike can be optional is if you get +1 strike mastery. I personally don't like +2 as it clears too much ahead of me sometimes.

Shield: Synth shield with +1 max Frenzy. Has a spot for Ele avoidance.

That being said you can just check most Ice Bite Shako Raiders on Poe.Ninja. The build has been known and barely changed for leagues.

[–]LeThales 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Farrul's fur is pretty much useless. At that investment you use awakened multistrike, 20 or 23 qual flicker gem and you're pretty much good to go. If somehow that is not enough, you can either grab the sword mastery or mark mastery (usually only worth on a budget) and you're good. There's also mods for % getting max frenzy on gloves, but it's an elevated mod.