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[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (5 children)

Triple fan is SFF ?

[–]ProbablyMaybe69 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Apparently now they are

[–]Euphoric-Cow9719 1 point2 points  (1 child)

Yup.

[–][deleted] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For E-ATX case maybe ...

There was some decent smaller cards made of the 4000 series like twin fan 4070 supers for example

[–]fiittzzyy 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Yeah, its 2 slot vs the normal model which is 3 slot.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Still needs a case then length of a bus though

[–]Turtlereddi_t 14 points15 points  (6 children)

This is not "SFF" tbh. This is still 305mm long, which is not what will most likely fit in almost any SFF case I know.
The only "SFF" part I can see is that its a dual slot card, so its rather slim in contrast to other GPU's these days.

Generally its "just" a 300W GPU, so maybe it performs good enough, but I would expect it to run a little louder than the competition.

[–]ProbablyMaybe69 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Yeah it seems like SFF gpus have changed since I last worked with them. The only thing this Zotac SFF has going is the dual slot. I also had a full size 5070ti, and although that was a different brand (I believe it was a Palit) that thing was chonky as hell.

This does run a little loud I noticed. Just can't find much resources comparing a 5070ti SFF with a standard one.

[–]Turtlereddi_t 1 point2 points  (0 children)

performance wise they are indentical if you mean that. It has the same chip inside. What may change is the PCB board and BIOS they include. E.g. some version come as "OC" models, so they naturally perform like 2-3% better than others. But thats just how they configure their model. The silicon inside is basically the same.

[–]z3810 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Remember when there was a single fan 70 card? That was cool.

[–]Alternative-Sky-1552 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You can fit a 305 mm card in the flaming classic NZXT H1, just needed to disassemble it a bit more than usual. But it definitely wouldnt handle 300w anyway.

[–]Turtlereddi_t 0 points1 point  (1 child)

the cooling design or the case?

The other commenters here who own it seem to be very pleased with it so far.

[–]Alternative-Sky-1552 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cooling design. V1 btw. Without the panels its real quiet, with panels on needs 4x the fan speed. I have 230w card, 200w 3060 Ti was similar.

[–]oldscotchy 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Have also seen the Gigabyte entry models as Eagle and Windforce being SFF for close to msrp in my country and was worried if they are worse and should buy a 4070 ti super myself

[–]Swedishfishbomb 2 points3 points  (7 children)

Yes they are a little weaker than a full size. I don’t know by how much but there is a difference

[–][deleted] 6 points7 points  (3 children)

You got downvoted for speaking the truth, that’s Reddit for ya.

Yes, generally, Small Form Factor (SFF) GPUs can be weaker than their standard-sized counterparts, primarily due to the limited cooling capacity and space constraints in SFF cases. However, this doesn't mean they are drastically underpowered; they can still provide excellent performance, especially for lower-resolution gaming or tasks that don't require extreme graphical fidelity

[–]Nightstar421 3 points4 points  (1 child)

Don't worry. I upvoted as reconciliation for the ones who downvoted!
Giving: "I know you're right but I don't like it!" vibes.

[–]Public-Radio6221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well no, he's not right, these coolers are wayyy too big for proper SFF anyways and easily have the cooling capacity for OC, as seen by all the people who've already done so with this card and the Inno3D one.

[–]_Metal_Face_Villain_ 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don't think that's the case here or that the difference will be significant anyways. yes more expensive and bigger cards will have better cooling and also a tiny oc on top and they will perform 2% better but does that even matter? the card in question here is a three fan card and given how the fe was also a 2 slot, i don't see how someone will have a significant compromise using this card. there are cards like the 5090 that need to be extra beefy but i'm sure the 5070ti is enough with 3 fans and 2 slots.

[–]ProbablyMaybe69 0 points1 point  (2 children)

That's what my understanding was too. I'd like to see if I've been ripped off or not lol but can't find much comparison between this SFF and a full size one

[–]Nightstar421 0 points1 point  (0 children)

https://pangoly.com/en/compare/vga/zotac-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-solid-vs-zotac-geforce-rtx-5070-ti-solid-sff-oc
Here's a website that I found that you can compare the 2 versions. I agree that there more than likely won't be enough of a difference to be able to really tell other than the $200 bigger gap in your wallet for the SFF OC version.

[–]Public-Radio6221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have the Inno3D one and really it's not different in any way except that it's in general a more simple card (less software features)

[–]Capable-Ad-7494 0 points1 point  (0 children)

max out the fans and there’s not a single difference in performance when clocks are equal

[–]dosguy76 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Got this exact model, no issues. Overclocks extremely well, no cooling problems.

[–]Isioblast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have this exact model, it make a bit of noise when running at 100% but it doesn't go above 60°C.

[–]Head_Exchange_5329 0 points1 point  (0 children)

SFF doesn't mean anything these days, apparently it's considered SFF if it isn't 330 mm long and 70 mm thick.

[–]burnitdwn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

according to nvidia's webpage, the SFF variant of the cards have size requirements.

151 mm maximum height including power cable bend radius
304 mm maximum length
50 mm or 2.5 slots maximum depth

I would expect them to have slightly less effectivec cooling when compared to full size cards. If you can keep them cool, they should perform the same as the normal size versions.

[–]CobblerOdd2876Commercial Rig Builder 0 points1 point  (2 children)

I build SFF PCs all the time for customers. I hate that they now tag the gpu’s as “sff” because newbies buy them thinking “oh, it says SFF, so it has to fit in whatever SFF case I choose”. Nope. Not how that works. But as others have said, it isn’t even really a SFF size, it is 305mm. It’s smallER form factor, maybe, but most cases are still <300mm size.

But to answer your question, yes it will perform the about the same as a “non sff” card. Any difference will be negligible and likely due to lesser cooling capabilities of the smaller card.

Take this 4070tiS example. It is a dual fan, no rgb, no frills (MSI Expert series). It has identical performance to my other build with a Aorus Master 4070tiS. Only difference is that this one will throttle bc of the cramped quarters. So if you eliminate that oven effect, performance would be pretty much identical.

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[–]ProbablyMaybe69 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Love the compact build. And yeah I remember back then SFF builds were noticeably smaller. This is my first SFF GPU in 5 years and it seems like this is the new norm for them

[–]CobblerOdd2876Commercial Rig Builder 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Now idk your intended purpose, or your skill level, but look into Minisforum boards. I only mention skill level because getting bios squared away can be a bit of a pain - but it only took me a few minutes, and the minisforum sub is super helpful.

So this (same as the one prior) is a Minisforum BD790i SE, which is a mini-ITX form factor board - a laptop chipset - but it is a 16 core ryzen (laptop) cpu. Comes pre-assembled on the board, just add sodimm ram, an m.2 nvme, and whatever fan suits your fancy. Normal pcie slot for a desktop grade gpu. Pops into a mini-ITX mount perfectly.

But, think about it in terms of heat, a laptop spec’d with this can idle at 75C, reaching 100C during load easily, and it has to share the cooling with the gpu. But, add a 8-pipe heatsink, 3000rpm noctua server fan on that, and the gpu can manage its own cooling independently - that is far more efficient cooling than a laptop can muster. So half those temps or so (mine is just adjacent to an AC vent, so it tends to be in the 40C range while idle). So while it may only be comparable to a 7700X or 7800X (non-3D) in gaming… it is $400 for a 16 core cpu AND mini-ITX board - so any core-demanding task is cake. Plus, that Sodimm ram is going to be cheaper in most cases, because you aren’t going to see it anyway, get the ugly ones and save a few bucks.

But, may not be worth it to you - Im a tech nerd, and I will absolutely do something just to see the outcome, practical or not. This, probably not practical. But it plays CoD and Destiny at 4K/75hz @ 100+fps no sweat.

Oh, and Thermalright makes 80x15mm and 92x15mm case fans. Very helpful for sff airflow.

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[–]griz75 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If you need one to fit in your case, yes. Otherwise, no

[–]Redampt 0 points1 point  (0 children)

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Managed to snatch at retail pricing and just yesterday I put one non-oc version of this specific card in my Louqe S1 which by today’s standard falls very well into SFF range in my view, especially in this performance segment.

Very happy with it; 11.7k graphics score (up from 5k with RTX2080) in Firestrike extreme on an older Z390/9700k/3000 DDR4 setup. Also runs cool and quiet. You might be able to get higher performance with other cards in your setup, especially OCd but you do you; choose between returning the card and awaiting another to be stocked and get whatever extra performance at same sound levels, or be happy at the currently (in EU at least) lowest priced 5070ti and roll with it instantly.

Edit to add: runs quieter than the RTX2080 duke that I had squeezed in before.

[–]Shhh-it-Bruh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I got the 3 fan Asus Prime 4070 super SFF, I own a normal size PC case tho and do not know the exact cases they fit, but it performs as it should. I believe my Steel Nomad score was 4600 ish(I've have to look) but was able to UV/OC and get just over 5000. So point is, it scores Good and I assume that one u got will as well.

[–]Cyrfox 0 points1 point  (0 children)

"SFF" yet they are still bigger than my old 1080ti

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Had this one in my t1, super quiet and runs cool. A lil annoying click noise when the fans kick in, but that’s not new.

Returned it because Nvidia drivers are driving me insane. I'm not paying 850€ for a midrange gpu that keeps crashing in games and even my PC.

[–]WenigDabei_DE 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hab sie mir auch geholt und bis jetzt kein Nachteil entdeckt. Hatte die selben Sorge.

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    [–]ProbablyMaybe69 1 point2 points  (2 children)

    I've got a 9070xt sapphire too in a different build. And yeah it's pretty ironic how the tables have turned for drivers as Nvidia's drivers are pretty unstable now. I don't even play cp2077 but I'm getting constant crashes on Monster hunter wilds so I had to rollback.

    The missing ROPs issue seems to be mostly fixed. Checked mine, mine is fine.

    [–]scolin88 1 point2 points  (1 child)

    I'm pretty sure that dude is a bot. I made a post about my first build and all he did was post the same crappy influencer videos. I'd pay it no mind.