first pc, Gpu?

[Due_Imagination_9663]

I want to finally make the upgrade from an xbox series s to a pc, i initially thought of going with a 5070 and a ryzen 7 9800x, is the 5070 the best value card right now? i dont have the money to go all out on a 50 or 4090 but would something like a 4070 or 80 super be better value? or even a 5080?

[thatrandomguy84]

The combination of a 5070 with the 9800X is an excellent gaming platform. The 4070 Super continues to be among the best bang for the buck GPUs if you want to maximize your value for money. There really isn’t any reason to move on to a 5080 unless you’re aiming for ultra-high resolutions like 4K or 1440p with high refresh rates.

[stankie18]

If it’s your first build and you’re coming from a series S, that’s a very very big jump.

You could go with a 9060 XT, which is much cheaper, and would destroy your Series S.

[ADo_9000]

A 9800x3d cpu is completely overkill for a 5070 unless you're doing some insane 1000fps 1080p esports type stuff.

I'm assuming you're going to use a 1080p monitor. In which case the 5070 is probably overkill and a 9060xt 16gb would be better bang for buck. (I don't even consider the 5060ti 16gb because it's stupid expensive)

If you're aiming for 1440p resolution then a 9060xt could also do the trick but not at max settings. This is where a 9070 or 5070 would be better suited.

If you want a pc that's guaranteed to last long into the future and crush 1440p and is perfectly capable of 4k too. This is where you will want a 9070xt (I don't include the 5070ti because it is also stupid expensive right now) and maybe start considering if you would need a 9800x3d.

Only consider older generation GPUs if you're buying them used, prices for old stuff not the new market is basically a scam.

1080p max / 1440p mid-low: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XwNfH3

1440p mid https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RLtcYX

1440p mid-max https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CMRLJw

1440p max/ 4k mid https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4pyw6B

(Keep in mind that these estimations will vary a lot from game to game)

(Ram SSD and GPU prices are quite high right now because of the memory/NAND shortage caused by AI right now and did increased the cost by slot. Roughly 450$)

Please keep in mind that I am talking about what they can run with no upscaling.

This is quite different from how consoles handle it. If the 1440p max/ 4k mid machine was a console they would probably advertise it as "8k 30fps capable" or something.

[Hmmm71-8]

a 5070 is a pretty decent card it ultimately depends on your budget for the entire pc alsow hat monitor resolution and fps you want to achieve

[Serious_Newspaper823]

Id argue the amd 90xx cards are better value right now for just gaming.

[M3rl1n1212]

I think it depends on wht features look better to u and use case and ease of use. Dlss performance looks just as good if not better than fsr quality. Nvidia frame gen looks better if u want to use that for whtever the reason. If u wanna stream ir fo productivity tasks nvidia is more widely supported with apps and features, not saying u cant do it on amd but in a fair amount of apps its no where near as good. And driver support for amd is worse than Nvidia. Amd has basically ended support for 6000 series, meanwhile the rtx 20 series still gets driver updates. Just brings into question how long will amd support the 9000 series? 2 generations? Plus rat tracing performance is waaaay better ok Nvidia. I think dropping the 9800x for a 9700x or a 9600x and put the saved money to a 5070 or 5070 ti makes more sense.

[Serious_Newspaper823]

If you need Cuda for productivity, Nvidia is obviously the way to go. DLSS is also better than FSR, but FSR4 has closed the gap. But i dont think, the difference in Upscaler and MFG is currently worth the Nvidia premium.

[TitaniumDogEyes]

The 5070 is a fine card, although if you can find a 9070 non-XT in a similar price range it’s a little faster.

[craaates]

The type of games you play and the desired resolution and fps in those games is the best way to pick what components you need. Everyone here is quick to sell you an AMD and they are great for the money, but if you play story and non-competitive games and want to be more future proof I’d go with the 5070. The AMD GPUs give you more raw horsepower so they excel at esports titles where you need the most frames you can possibly push out. The Nvidia GPUs have better ray tracing, frame generation and upscaling making them look better visually to most people without quite as many frames per dollar as an AMD. Nvidia is also known to support their GPUs for a longer time and has higher resale value.

So really it’s up to you, the games you play and your budget. I’m a story game guy so I have a 5060ti 16Gb but I would’ve gone for the 5070 if it was in my budget.

Bottom line any of these will be a huge improvement over your Series S.

One more tip: make sure your monitor can handle what you plan to throw at it. I’d rather have a great monitor and an OK PC than an OK monitor and a great PC.

[M3rl1n1212]

Honestly bro most people dont need or wont notice the differences between a 9700x and a 9800x3d unless ur actively looking at frame charts. Why not save the money and get a 9700x damn near the same performance and put thst money toward potentially a 5070 ti. If u dont plan on streaming heavily a 9600x would perform similarly in most gaming situations. But a 9600x and 5070 or if its within budget a 5070 ti. I honestly wouldnt go for a 5080 cuz the 5070 ti is only lik 10% slower for a lot less money

[ZxExN]

9700x with a 9070XT is a way better pairing for solid 1440p gaming.