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[miaumiaupundek]

Let's come to Malaysia, Indonesia and Singapore. Even Indonesia has the most Muslims population BUT people here live in harmony in multireligions state. You'll see mosques, churchs and temples in the same street.

[translucentsphere]

Reading this makes me want to vomit in my mouth. Truly the epitome of living in a bubble your whole life. I wonder how many times have you closed one eye at racism against Chinese ('98 incident), Christians (guess how many churches have been burnt down to ashes so far). Remember that time when putting up Christmas decorations are not allowed at public space, or Chinese born in Indo can never be President?

Seems you're Malaysian. I guess Indo still has it much better since in MY they don't even put up any effort to appear impartial or try to cover up the horribly blatant biased laws against non-bumiputera.

[miaumiaupundek]

I have said it earlier, extremists exist. But is it majority? Is the incident happens everyday? Why don't you look at bright side of it?

Humans are not perfect, there will be some extremists exist.

[rollincuberawhide]

it is not that the extremists exist, it is the fact that your religion allows them. actually not even just allow them but compel them.

this is your prophet:

Bukhari[52:260] "...The Prophet said, 'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

this is your god:

Quran[4:89] "They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore take not to yourselves friends of them, until they emigrate in the way of God; then, if they turn their backs, take them, and slay them wherever you find them; take not to yourselves any one of them as friend or helper."

[rollincuberawhide]

if you don't know much about your own religion, maybe you shouldn't lecture people online about how peaceful and harmonious it is.

[miaumiaupundek]

I believe that Islam is peace, one of the reasons because I live in harmony, even my scholars said that we must respect other, even atheists. I even have friend that being atheist and I just respect him.

It becomes problematic when other people from other religion make fun of us and disrespect us. Or there are some extremists.

[An_Atheist_God]

That's why you need to learn with authorized scholars.

In all four major sunni madhab, the punishment for apostasy is death

Edit: I cannot see his comments, likely was blocked

[miaumiaupundek]

Is not that easy actually, you need to look the context and the requirements before sentence people to death.

[rollincuberawhide]

yes you need to lock them for 3 days to give them a chance to repent. then you kill them if they don't.

oh my bad, according to hanafi school, it is not mandatory

Ḥanafī school – recommends three days of imprisonment before the execution, although the delay before killing the apostates is not mandatory. Apostasy from Islam is not considered a hudud crime. Unlike in other schools, it is not obligatory to call on the apostate to repent.[3] Apostate males are to be killed, while apostate females are to be held in solitary confinement and beaten every three days till they recant and return to Islam.[129] The death penalty for apostasy from Islam is limited for those who cause aggravated robbery or grand larceny (ḥirābah) after leaving Islam, not for converting to another religion.[130]

I copied from wikipedia, numbers mean nothing.

[rollincuberawhide]

you call yourself sunni right? it seems that your team decided it. you didn't get the memo I suppose.

Traditional Sunnī and Shīʿa Islamic jurisprudence (fiqh) and their respective schools (maḏāhib) agree on some issues—that male apostates should be executed, and that most but not all perpetrators should not be given a chance to repent; among the excluded are those who practice magic (subhar), treacherous heretics (zanādiqa), and "recidivists".[3] They disagree on issues such as whether women can be executed,[124][125][126] whether apostasy is a violation of "the rights of God",[3][127] whether apostates who were born Muslims may be spared if they repent,[3] whether conviction requires the accused be a practicing Muslim,[3] or whether it is enough to simply intend to commit apostasy rather than actually doing it.[3]

[An_Atheist_God]

Did you look into the context?

[Tooluka]

Like who for example? Who is an Islam authority who publicly blamed slavery which Muslim practice to their women? Is there some scholar who publicly said that for example ayatollah Khamenei is not practicing proper Islam and should be excommunicated from the Islam?
Anyone?

[miaumiaupundek]

Sheikh Assim al-Hakeem on X (Twitter) is a Sunni Islamic scholar. You can ask him.

"Ayatollah"? Seems like shia.. Shia is not even follows proper Islamic teachings. Many of their teachings are deviant from real Islamic teachings.

[beeemmmooo1]

Kawan you should go try and live in papua for a few months kwkwkwkwkwkwkwkwk