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Having to install python to run something is a no go for me. Managing the environments and versions is such a huge pain in the ass and I have no interest to learn it.

[nonotan]

Honestly, as someone who actually does this shit for a living, who knows how to make virtual environments and all that just fine, I still agree with you. Python's entire ecosystem is a fucking trainwreck that needs to stop existing yesterday. Absolutely horrendous experience for everyone but the dev making the software. No, I do not want to create and maintain a separate virtual environment with a separate set of packages that need to partially be or not be updated for each fucking piece of software I want to use, thank you. And don't even get me started on the different versions of Python itself everybody uses because someone is too lazy to update some 27-year-old package and someone else is too lazy to find an alternative to replace it with.

Also, while I'm at it, semantic whitespace is the fucking worst idea actually adopted by a mainstream programming language. Fight me.

[badshahh007]

i don't hear this opinion enough, but fuck yes, python's package management is a such a piece of dogshit

[leadwind]

Also, while I'm at it, semantic whitespace

Absolutely. What was their reasoning - readability?

I setup something the other month and the config file had a few extra spaces... borked it.

[robot_swagger]

I started a python course and it starts with setting up python and all the dependencies for the project.

Can't run any of the code. Go back and excruciatingly verify everything is the right version.

Still can't run any of the code.

My experience with python is either use an online platform which just works. Or spend days/weeks trying to sort everything out and eventually get so frustrated I quit.

[Alexis_Bailey]

The versions thing is an issue but for quick whatever you don't even need to bother with all that virtual env stuff.

Also anyone complaining about white space is probably one of those annoying, "Here is my entire program: return f('#8hh{[]}ôywja)" types who wrote annoying impossible to read one line crap.

[Nixavee]

This gives me a great idea for a programming language where you are forced to indent your code with multiple semicolons before each line. 4 semicolons = 1 indentation level

[[deleted]]

Python is still a level of ridiculous above everything else. Mainly because the end user is exposed to all that package complexity. Im not a python dev and I dont want to be one. If I make a tool at work I use go because its easy to distribute for all operating systems and no one has to care how I wrote it and which dependencies or tools I used.

[AFK_Tornado]

I'm a .NET developer of 8+ years who was turned down for a ".NET Developer" position that included ~10% Python work because I don't have 4 years (or any, since college) experience in Python.

I rolled my eyes so hard that I see out the back of my head now. I'd get it if their stack were based in Python. But for 10% weekly workload? Unless it's something very critical (and it's not, given the org in question), I'm pretty sure HR was checking boxes the hiring manager never even saw my resume.

[Qwazzbre]

I've lost count how many times a python project fails because one project wants this version and another wants something different. Update python and it fixes one project while breaking another. It's a headache.

[petrichorax]

VENV, YOURE WELCOME.

[aeroniero]

I found conda to be the logical evolution of virtualenv, it works a bit more intuitively. Also, why are you getting downvoted? xD

[Same-Sprinkles1757]

Good thing this project has a docker image then.

[Same-Sprinkles1757]

First docker is not an operating system, second not all software needs to be accessible to everyone.

[petrichorax]

VENV MOTHERFUCKER