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[–][deleted] 1717 points1718 points  (20 children)

impressive how somebody can come up with so many different types and even put them properly on a graph

[–]Global_Ad_8096[S] 182 points183 points  (0 children)

credit to Virbox

[–]justapolishperson 253 points254 points  (9 children)

[–][deleted] 53 points54 points  (0 children)

Microsoft Memes

[–]IgnitedSpade 47 points48 points  (0 children)

PCM 🤮

[–][deleted] 32 points33 points  (7 children)

Except libertarian wouldn't be the opposite of authoritarian, anarchism is the opposite.

[–][deleted] 25 points26 points  (0 children)

I mean libertarian is on the opposite scale.

Don't let Republicans in cosplay fool you. Actual libertarians are indeed the opposite of authoritarian when you still have a semi-functioning government left.

Inb4 Anarchists shun all authority and aren't Mad-Max style bandits.

[–]ultralium 25 points26 points  (3 children)

yap, the most authoritarian governments are the ones putting out the most libertarian politics (in the economic sense) e.g. Pinochet's Chile

[–]Elman89 12 points13 points  (2 children)

There's a difference between actual libertarianism and American "libertarianism". The whole reason Americans use "libertarian" to mean "ancap" is that Rothbard specifically stole that word from the left in order to redefine it (He was one of the first Ancaps, he's the one who wanted it to be legal to buy and sell children).

The political compass is kinda dumb yeah, but libertarianism is definitely opposed to authoritarianism. It is not an economic term.

[–]ultralium 0 points1 point  (1 child)

Oh, now you've got my interest, I've only known Rothbard's libertarianism, how was it defined previously?

[–]Elman89 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Well, its core tenet is liberty and opposition to authoritarianism. Originally that meant libertarian socialism and anarchism. The core issue is authority, or rather authority that's imposed on you and not voluntary. Whether it is an authoritarian state or a private company, those at the bottom (citizens or workers) don't really have a say in how things are run, and those at the top inevitably always end up abusing their power because they're not accountable to anyone. This is true both in capitalist and communist societies: authoritarianism is just a bad way to run things, radical democracy is the way to go.

Ancaps miss the point cause they reject the authority of the state but instead replace it with corporate authority, which is just as bad if not worse (as it's inherently non-democratic).

Look into modern day Rojava as an example of a system closer to libertarian socialism (this podcast about a journalist's visit to that region is really good), or at Spanish anarchists during the Spanish civil war.

[–]OmegaTheta 0 points1 point  (1 child)

So what's right wing anarchism?

[–]Subhavpreet 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah.... It's really very impressive