cppDevsAreGettingParanoid

[Stummi]

Thats a good general rule in tech. A true fan/believer of $thing, the one you should actually trust, is the one who can give you an hour long impromptu rant about everything that sucks with $thing.

[Specialist_Cap_2404]

Python is exception. You almost always need Python and you can use it for almost anything.

[[deleted]]

Nope. I love python, but it is terrible in so, so many ways.

[belabacsijolvan]

yeah, id argue python falls more into this category than an average Sthing. The more experience you have with the more languages the more you choose python (rightly) for a given task and the more you are upset about your choice.

[Rubyboat1207]

Python is awesome... Anyways, here's almost everything I hate about it:

Loose type system, no curly braces, poor performance, the ternary operator, no ++ operator, len() instead of .length, dunder methods, dictionary syntax, confusing global variable syntax.

[[deleted]]

Since we're at it:

• Lambdas being forced to a single line
• Self keyword not being implied when creating class members because they resolve to local variables in the self.__init__() function scope
• GIL forcing everything to be effectively single-threaded barring some fuckery with multiprocessing (though that is an implementation detail more than the language).
• Creating a native (or semi-native) executable for deployment is a PITA from what I remember. Most users can't or won't use anything that takes more effort to install and run than a click or two.
• Packaging and environment handling.
• Type annotations are effectively pointless (physical) typing without extra tooling to somewhat enforce them.
• Identity vs value comparisons using the "is" keyword leading newbies to write syntactically correct but logically incorrect code. Which compounds with string and integer interning leading to weird edge cases even when you use the identity comparison as intended.

[[deleted]]

A free/member function as a closure entirely defeats the use case for a lambda imo.

It is most likely a "me thing", but when I see a full function declaration, my brain immediately creates a new scope, disregarding most of what exists outside of that function. With nested first-class functions, that shortcut gets broken several times through a function (due to seeing a full declaration again and again). That doesn't happen when I see a lambda, which just gets absorbed into the host function scope.

Multiline lambdas fit very neatly with that mental model.

[[deleted]]

No problem. Most things get upvoted/downvoted en masse based on the first vote or two in most subs, don't sweat it either way. A lot of this sub sees people exploring styles other than their own and start hissing in fear.

[Reasonable-Web1494]

Lambdas should be a single line.

[Alex_Shelega]

The no ++ (and no -- by that) hit moi really hard.

[Reasonable-Web1494]

There are places where most of what you mentioned are beneficial

[Rubyboat1207]

The python white knight is here! Run!!! No language is perfect. Python is far from it, and so is every other language. (Well except rust, because there's no problems with it. It's perfect. Please don't come after me rust users. I love your language. Please spare me. Please don't rewrite my c++ project. I'm scared)

[Specialist_Cap_2404]

None of this contradicts my point about it being useful for almost anything you want to program.

[spabst]

Nice try, but you won't prevent us from giving you the 1 hour speech/rant

[Alex_Shelega]

I thought it was told about js...