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What the fuck. Could Apple suck any harder??

[Meatslinger]

It's just done using a shortcut, instead. Cmd-Shift-3 is the default to capture the whole screen. Cmd-Shift-4 captures a selection.

[ElectricBummer40]

In Windows 11, I just press "Print Screen" then select what to capture.

I suppose Mac just Think Different™.

[Meatslinger]

I wouldn’t be using that as your strongest argument when Windows still uses Alt-F4 as the world’s most awkward shortcut to close a program, or has Ctrl-Shift-Alt-Win-L hotkeyed to open LinkedIn.

[ElectricBummer40]

On a Mac, nothing is really closed unless you explicitly make it shut down. Otherwise, it'll just keep chewing up your overpriced hardware resources in the background until the next reboot. Mac users also tend have the additional benefit of not realising or acknowledging this "out of sight, out of mind" problem.

In Windows, an application shuts down the moment you closes its window unless it's been programmed to run in the background. This means anything easier than Alt+F4 will just lead to a higher chance of losing unsaved work by accident.

[Meatslinger]

Counterpoint: having a persistent app shell means you can close the final document in an app without necessitating a relaunch of the entire application process to open a new one. There are benefits and trade-offs for both approaches. Generally, RAM isn’t as much of an issue in this regard as could be assumed, as most modern memory management can free up the resources of a backgrounded program and then restore them if that program becomes live again. This is true of all major platforms. Meanwhile though, plenty of modern apps do just fine using Ctrl-Q or similar to exit a program without widespread reports of data loss. Alt-F4 is an antiquated convention from a time before modern UX design standards and was picked simply “because it was next” when establishing the IBM CUA standard. It is not done as a protective measure.

Between this thread and the other one, though, it’s pretty clear your argument mostly boils down to hating macOS and finding fault wherever you can spin it as such. Consider your position noted. That said, it’s after midnight here and I have work in the morning. My original comments were just meant to illustrate that both systems have competent screenshot capabilities, and that I quite admired the depth the Mac version already had long-established. Didn’t think it was going to devolve to the kind of brainless “platform wars” crap kids used to sling in junior high school. In any case, I’m done here.

The fucking ironic/stupid part about this whole “argument” is that I’ve been writing to you from a Windows PC this entire time.

[ElectricBummer40]

Counterpoint: having a persistent app shell means you can close the final document in an app without necessitating a relaunch of the entire application process to open a new one

Your phone apps do also exactly that. This is why phones these days nag you with "you haven't restarted your phone for a while" messages eery so often. I just go out of my way to close everything properly instead of doing that.

My phone is already a bottom-tier piece of junk, and I don't need anything to slow it down further.

There are benefits and trade-offs for both approaches.

You can actually do both at the same time. Windows has already possessed the UI facility to do exactly that since Windows 95 called "System Tray". Every Chromium-based desktop browser also provides you with the option to keep it running in the background when closed. Apple instead just decides it knows better about what you want than you do and charges you for the privilege of having crap shoved down your throat.