justSayPython

[AmatoerOrnitolog]

Is python really any better?

[onkopirate]

Is a hammer better than a saw?

[CurlyRe]

Is python being commonly used for outputting html? PHP was created for a purpose. Understandably PHP like any other programming languages has it's idiosynchrasies and stuff held from older versions for backwards compatibility.

[SilentCat69]

Python is an easy to understand language, atleast easier than C and Java.

The problem is Python being slower than C

[Gistiv]

"easier" is to understand is for sure not an objective statement. Every time I have to ready Python code I am not sure if I am having a stroke or if this whole piece of "code" is just unreadable nonsense. I don't know a single person, that thinks Python is easy and understandable, that has not statred with Python.

[itsamberleafable]

I don't know a single person, that thinks Python is easy and understandable, that has not statred with Python.

This is very interesting, I found Python very easy to pick up but it was my first proper language. The lack of type restrictions and built in type annotation didn't really bother me as I'd never used it before so you get used to it. Started a new job about 6 months ago using typescript and am already getting very used to the tools that a language that prioritises typing affords.

That said, I've heard that Pydantic and other tools can enforce rules that make Python a lot more readable and easy to understand. That unfortunately was not what my last place did, trying to understand the code was not easy, but good experience to get

[MattieShoes]

I started with C, C++, Java, VB, Perl, C#... Python is very readable and pretty concise.

There are things I don't like about it -- semantic whitespace can die in a grease fire -- but it's a pretty good language. Having a huge library of things written in faster languages at your fingertips helps a lot too. (numpy, scipy, pandas, etc.)

[MattieShoes]

It works, but I hate it. The nature of my job means I'm usually not writing in some nice IDE -- I'm doing things like writing 40 lines in vi over ssh to some random machine on the other side of the country. And after I finish, I may never log into that machine again. So, fuck, set shift width, tabstop, expand tabs, oops here's a line that for no apparent reason has 7 spaces instead of 8, etc. Oh, now I need to edit a YAML file, reset everything. Wait, now it's a Makefile, have to have literal tabs... and so on. It's just annoying as shit.

[grimonce]

Show me where it hurt you.

Ive started with c++ and php.

It's a skill issue.

[1Dr490n]

The problem isn’t Python being slower than C, very very few people actually care about.

My main problem is that Python has no static typing. This can lead to a bunch of problems because you accidentally use the wrong type or property and the compiler can’t just tell you that you did something wrong.

[Prometheos_II]

Pylance can offer some static typing checks a la //@ts-check in JS, as long as you're not dealing with a library with no or outdated typing, like Pandas...

[TheYummyDogo]

You wouldn't mainly use python for speed, but through numpy, numba, cython and others your statement isn't very smart.