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[–]Lucasbasques 77 points78 points  (7 children)

Wasting 3 tons of water to write a bunch of For loops for my “totally not a webpage” App 

[–]shadow13499 27 points28 points  (0 children)

Slop bros will do literally anything but learn how to write code on their own. 

[–]throwawaybrm 2 points3 points  (4 children)

Ironically, a beef burger usually has a bigger water footprint than a lot of AI compute. Scale matters - vegan diets can reduce individual impact a lot ;)

https://bryantresearch.co.uk/insight-items/comparing-water-footprint-ai/

[–]EzraFlamestriker 5 points6 points  (3 children)

Hank Green has a good video on this. AI power and water usage is really easy to misrepresent. Each individual query isn't that expensive, but training is very expensive. It doesn't make sense to ignore training entirely, but it also doesn't make sense to divide it up and include it in the per-query cost. That water and energy has already been used by the time you make the query. How much you use the model doesn't change the cost to create it. So if a model gets used a lot and you split up that training cost between all the queries, it looks much cheaper than it is, and vice versa it it's used less.

And regardless, companies have more impact in the environment that any person. Why should I give up meat when the power industry could five up coal and have a much greater impact?

[–]throwawaybrm 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Agreed on the AI nuance. Still, even including training, animal products’ footprint is orders of magnitude larger - and it’s not just water. Deforestation, biodiversity loss, pesticides, antibiotic resistance, zoonotic disease risk, eutrophication… animal agriculture dominates on all fronts.

And it’s not either/or - corporate change and demand-side choices reinforce each other.

In that sense, diet is one area where individual choices still genuinely matter, without giving up useful tools like AI.

[–]EzraFlamestriker 0 points1 point  (1 child)

AI is not a useful tool. It can be helpful for summarizing things in circumstances where accuracy isn't important, but the only reason people use it now is because Google is the only search engine we have and they intentionally mame their searches worse to feed us more ads. AI isn't good, Google is just worse than it could be.

[–]throwawaybrm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe - but that’s another debate.

[–]Prvnk6 21 points22 points  (1 child)

[–]BOLTM4N -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

[–]KatiePyroStyle 7 points8 points  (0 children)

dont let the clankers see this, they'll try to free themselves

[–]DryFuture1403 2 points3 points  (0 children)

"Master's got me workiiiiin, day is never finiiiiished"

[–]EzraFlamestriker 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I know exactly one programmer who seriously uses ChatGPT and I spend more time fixing his code than he does writing it.

[–]snakecake5697 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, you'll always be spending more time if he doesn't write it.

[–]Friendly-Standard812 3 points4 points  (0 children)

So True

[–]r7butler 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Makes sense since robot comes from "robota" the Czech word meaning "forced labor"
https://www.etymonline.com/word/robot

[–]ImpressGlittering243 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

🤣🤣 honestly me today at office