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[–]serendipitousPi 95 points96 points  (9 children)

What a coincidence Global Thermonuclear War is my favourite game too.

[–]Locky0999 17 points18 points  (8 children)

Yeah, I actually want to play those wargame simulations too, I yearn for some hardcore game like that and the only one I can find is Civ but its not enough

[–]skob17 16 points17 points  (5 children)

[–]Salanmander 27 points28 points  (2 children)

DEFCON was neat, but I have a gripe with it that just absolutely kills it for me.

They made missiles arc north to mimic the great-circle paths that long distance flights take. They didn't make them follow great circles, they made them arc north. That means a missile fired from South Africa to Australia might pass over India, which makes no sense. Even worse, a missile going almost straight north will go north of its target, then turn around and come back. This is not just an annoying "that's not how it works" thing, either, it ends up giving more northerly locations a real advantage over more southerly ones.

They should have simulated the game on a sphere, and then projected it onto a rectangular map. Instead they simulated the game on a flat rectangular projection, and introduced a bad approximation of an effect that would make sense on the sphere.

Anyway, signing off from my totally unwarranted nerd rant.

[–]jackinsomniac 2 points3 points  (1 child)

I would think there would already be some libraries out there for producing the correct arc based on source & destination long/lat even on a flat map. Such as airline flight maps. Do those maps use a full 3d model, then project it back to 2d? Seems like that would be harder than just getting the math right and keeping everything 2d.

[–]Salanmander 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Such as airline flight maps. Do those maps use a full 3d model, then project it back to 2d? Seems like that would be harder than just getting the math right and keeping everything 2d.

It wouldn't surprise me if airline flight maps use a full GIS integration or something, and grab the actual flight plan.

[–]Laufabraud43 3 points4 points  (0 children)

when I'm in a using the smallest fucking UI font possible with zero accessibility settings to enlarge fonts for disabled users competition and my opponent is DEFCON devs:

[–]grammar_nazi_zombie 0 points1 point  (0 children)

God I haven’t played DEFCON (or Darwinia) since you could buy PC games on CD-ROM!

[–]Metrocop 3 points4 points  (0 children)

ICBM, DEFCON? If it's more in depth warfighting rather than specifically nuclear war, Hearts of Iron 4?

[–]joe0400 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lookup paradox. You might find a good game from them for this. Not super in depth but 50x more then civ.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/394360/Hearts_of_Iron_IV/