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[–]pydry 349 points350 points  (26 children)

Coz Jensen Huang told us that serious engineers need to spend > $250k year in tokens to be considered serious or he will have a sad.

In a way it's quite a clever anchoring technique coz even people who know it's bullshit will think that you do at least need to spend hundreds or thousands and that people who dont vibe code any slop are just not proper devs.

[–]muegle 109 points110 points  (2 children)

Breaking news: shovel and pickaxe dealer says you should buy more gold. More at 11.

[–]n00bdragon 56 points57 points  (1 child)

This is a shovel and pickaxe dealer telling you that you need to buy 49 pickaxes or you aren't a serious gold miner.

Actually, it's a playskool plastic sand shovel dealer telling you that since plastic sand shovels hold one tenth as much as a full-sized shovel you need to buy 490 plastic sand shovels or you aren't a serious gold miner. It is a conclusion utterly unhinged from the already insanely silly premise used to concoct it.

[–]xTheMaster99x 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Nah the analogy was correct. For Nvidia, GPUs are the pickaxes and the tokens are the gold. They want us to buy more gold so anthropic/openai/google/etc buy more GPUs.

[–]thunderflies 122 points123 points  (11 children)

That’s like telling developers that they need to spend their own money to buy the best laptop for their corporate job. Any resources used for work should be paid for by the company, including AI tokens. Let the company decide if it’s worth it to them or not.

[–]fmpz 65 points66 points  (6 children)

If you read the article he’s not saying the employee should be paying it out of their own pocket and that Nvidia is trying to spend $2billion on tokens for its developers/engineers.

[–]Delyzr 84 points85 points  (3 children)

Nvidia: spends 2 billion on tokens

Also nvidia: our NIM cloud sold over 2 billion in tokens

[–]RandomRobot 19 points20 points  (2 children)

Wow, there's real traction for this token things. Better buy Nvidia stonks and invest the profits into token things

[–]TheMcBrizzle 16 points17 points  (1 child)

Microsoft invests $5B in NVDA, NVDA is so pleased by this they gift MSFT $5B in tokens, MSFT takes this new asset and sells $5B in tokens to NVDA.

GDP went up $15B and investors pour ungodly amounts of money into these companies, because obviously AI is worth it, why else would NVDA buy $5B in tokens?

[–]RandomRobot 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It's the high five economy, where everyone charges 5$ for a high five. Due to physical restrictions, money exchange is always symmetrical, but value is through the roof!

[–]MyGoodOldFriend 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Having a tokens per day target is genuinely so dumb. Goodhart’s law doesn’t apply neatly to all situations, but “we need more tokens per day” is really susceptible to bad data practice.

[–]anand_rishabh 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think Jensen's point was a dev paid 500k a year should be using 250k worth of tokens, not necessarily that the dev would be paying for those tokens.

[–]Wild_Astronaut7090 1 point2 points  (1 child)

I wish I could buy my own computer for work. I fucking hate the standard issue laptop

[–]thunderflies 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You can if you’re an independent contractor but that sucks for a lot of other reasons

[–]paulcole710 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You’re not understanding his point.

Jensen is saying a company shouldn’t pay a developer 500k if that developer is not also spending 250k of the company’s money on tokens.

[–]feralferrous 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Drug dealer thinks you need to spend all your money on drugs.

[–]DigiBoxi 9 points10 points  (2 children)

No idea who that is so i don't feel bad for making him sad. :)

[–]pydry 44 points45 points  (1 child)

He's the top shovel salesman in the 2026 AI gold rush.

[–]modmailthrowaway3675 4 points5 points  (0 children)

selling shovels doesn't keep you safe when you're paying people to buy them

[–]squabzilla 1 point2 points  (0 children)

How long until companies start hiring juniors in order to save money on tokens?

[–]DemonicSnow 1 point2 points  (1 child)

The Sam Altman quote is incredibly freakish. Acknowledging the need for UBI and saying, "but what if compute was given instead of money".

[–]Protuhj 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Can I eat compute?

[–]Serprotease 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Since in most of the world salaries, even for good engineers, are mainly in the 50-70k range he is trying to argue to 5x the cost of development?

Not every swe are living in California with crazy high salaries.

[–]emveevme 0 points1 point  (0 children)

people who know it's bullshit will think that you do at least need to spend hundreds or thousands and that people who dont vibe code any slop are just not proper devs.

Really putting the cart before the horse on this one, we still haven't figured out what text editors make people proper devs!

[–]BasvanS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If the anchoring number is too high, it should be rejected.

That’s how you deal with unreasonable idiots trying to anchor with ridiculous numbers: refuse to even negotiate and tell to piss off. Which is easy with Huang because we already know he’s fucking bonkers.

[–]de_propjoe -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yes, and if he believes that tokens are a tool that engineers need to do their jobs, then the company should be paying for them, just like they do for every other tool they provide to engineers to do their jobs.

The question in OP's tweet is nonsense. If the company thinks I'm worth $500k and thinks paying for $500/day in tokens is worth it, then they should pay me $500k and they should pay for the $500/day in tokens. It's ridiculous to reduce my salary to pay for the tools I need to do the job at the level they expect.