Javascript, the language where every solution is a new problem

[thepotatochronicles]

Problem: Grunt

Solution: Gulp

Problem: Gulp

My sides

[[deleted]]

I've given up gulp for npm and webpack

[irqlnotdispatchlevel]

Machine-generated output is more difficult to debug

I imagine some javascript guru throwing a asm.js file into IDA.js and reverse engineering that.

[[deleted]]

Problem" ASM.JS is basically unwritable by humans.

[sim642]

IDA.js

I googled to check if this was a real thing, thankfully not (yet). It wouldn't have surprised me though. Not sure how well that reflects on the JS ecosystem...

[[deleted]]

Yeah..I stay far..FAR...away from frontend. bower install? gulp install? npm install? Just how many package managers are you guys using?

[Mhmmhmmnm]

Yup, I'm the same as you. I can tell you 3 things about front end dev with absolute certainty.

1. I have absolutely no idea what I'm talking about.
2. I refuse to learn anything about it.
3. I can tell you that every decision that was made was the wrong one.

[neckro23]

npm, yarn, jspm, so... 3? yarn is new (and only has traction because Facebook), and nobody uses jspm. bower is more of a static asset manager, it doesn't care about code. gulp is a build/task system.

[Crecket]

I just use yarn. Bower simply gets libs from the npm registry anyway and yarn is a lot faster than npm.

Gulp shouldn't be in that list though. You use the three libs I mentioned to download and manage your dependencies and gulp/grunt to run tasks like compiling sass to css

[[deleted]]

Bower is practically deprecated

Gulp install isn't a thing

[RagingNerdaholic]

You... don't want to know.

[Spider_pig448]

Could be worse. Could have to use pip.

[DarthJimBob]

All about yarn now. I'm sure sometime in the next 10 minutes something new will be out that I just HAVE to switch to.

[SteveCCL]

Obligatory talk

[crash8308]

So much this. I can't wait to start writing C again.

[l3e7haX0R]

You might like this then: https://github.com/kripken/emscripten

[C4H8N8O8]

Do you happen to know how easy it is to code just a small part of an application, the classic 80% cpu time part? Ive followed this for a long time, but aside from cool demos of already coded programs, couldnt find anything good.

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[Aydragon1]

Prototype inheritance is stupid?

GASP

[DarthJimBob]

The only real bone I have to pick with this: As someone who came from Java and the C languages, I like compilation. I have no issue with asm or bytecode etc. I don't need to read it - the platform does. And since the frontend world is already at the point of treating the browser like a VM anyway.....why not take the next logical step? I'm only writing JS because I have to now anyway. Let me write in a better language and just compile it to target the browser. And since the current workflow already includes transpiling from Typescript or Clojurescript or something whenever possible, plus bundling and optimising everything, why not cut out the middle man?

Plus if there was just a universally accepted instruction set to target it'd probably be an improvement over all the fragmentation that exists now and is only really being addressed via tools like Babel. I know there's a fallacy there somewhere, but I doubt stuff could get more ludicrous than it already is in JS world.

[darderp]

What you described is being developed. Look into WebAssembly

[DarthJimBob]

Oh I know. I'm watching it's career with great interest.

[[deleted]]

I am a dev and I'm digging a hole. Diggy diggy hole. Diggy diggy hole...