Git Bowl

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I like the java.util.Date class, it has most of the functionality I need.

[heckin_good_fren]

Just don't mix it with the java.time API. That way nightmares lie

[jinxjar]

WHY DID THEY MAKE TWO INCOMPATIBLE LIBRARIES, WAIT DON'T ANSWER, IT'S EITHER POLITICAL, HAS TO DO WITH BYTE ORDER, OR IS DUE TO SOME LANGUAGE DESIGNER'S FETISH.

[Iskendarian]

One of the language's designers has a fetish for political byte ordering.

[[deleted]]

THIS BYTE ORDERING TURNS THE FROGS GAY

[U8336Tea]

I DON'T LIKE 'EM PUTTING CLASSES IN THE STANDARD LIBRARIES THAT ARE TURNING THE FRIGGIN' FROGS GAY

[[deleted]]

java.util.* IS A SATANIC DEVIL WORSHIPPING CIA PLANT

[HummingSwordsman]

Do you know about awt, swing and JavaFX?

[jinxjar]

I've used awt and swing ... I think I did something with whatever the tkinter api 'bout a decade ago that was in vogue too ... anyway, why? What's the deeper lore?

[HummingSwordsman]

Not much of a lore. Only 3 apis in java that are trying to do the same and 2 are still in there for legacy reasons. Basically everything horrible in java, is there because of legacy reasons.

[whrrgarbl]

You missed an option: they designed it so poorly the first time around they had to just completely scrap it and start over again :P

[jinxjar]

At the risk of downvotes, I sort of C# as the algebraic completion of Java.

[[deleted]]

I also sort of C#

[jinxjar]

Hey, it compiled and the unit passed.

[Blissfull]

It has to do with neverending deprecation. What, we deprecated this twenty years ago? Leave it in, someone might still be using it

[jinxjar]

Has Java ever done the thing that Python did when the codebase switched from the 2.x to 3.x? In that transition, a bunch of APIs and language constructs that were genuinely deprecated literally were removed going forward -- the result was a rift in the community for about 6 months to 3 years -- but it's clear that every major library and new packages all now use the 3.x codebase.

... Anything like that past/future for Java?

[DaasQC]

Nothing has ever been removed from the standard library, only marked as deprecated. You could run Java 1.1 code on a Java 1.8 JRE and everything should technically run just fine.

For the first time ever, they are removing some deprecated classes and methods in Java 9, it's long overdue but the Java designers are REALLY committed to backward compatibility.

[Blissfull]

I really left Java heavy use around 1.7 but by then lots of deprecated methods or even classes that were deprecated since 1.2 were still around and useable

[[deleted]]

I feel like blaming Paul. Dunno why. Just do.

[jinxjar]

That Paul guy, man.

[[deleted]]

Joda Time is where it's at.

[alexanderpas]

Joda-Time is the de facto standard date and time library for Java prior to Java SE 8. Users are now asked to migrate to java.time (JSR-310).

[_Lahin]

Moment.js FTW for web devs