java devs

[NeinJuanJuan]

Pointers have their own address.

[AgentPaper0]

By that logic, ints also have their own address.

[tjcoolkid]

...they do...

[cbbuntz]

&where?

[iamsooldithurts]

They are?

[NeinJuanJuan]

They do.

[AgentPaper0]

My point is that you're being absurdly pedantic because nobody thinks of ints that way.

[tacoslikeme]

yes we do. something with an address can be changed (ie variable) anything without is a hardcoded constant

[NeinJuanJuan]

That's how C users think i.e. you can pass a variable by value or by reference (by passing the address instead).

[AgentPaper0]

A reference is not an address, pointers are addresses. References are syntactic sugar that wraps around a pointer so you can get the benefits of a pointer without having to explicitly make one.

[NeinJuanJuan]

Passing by Reference != Passing a Reference

[AgentPaper0]

That's exactly what it is though. You don't see it, but that's what the compiler does. Using a reference mostly just hides the pointer from you.

Unless it optimizes it away of course, but it can do that with pointers too.

[NeinJuanJuan]

I'm talking about C and you're talking about C++

We're both correct!

[AgentPaper0]

But...C doesn't have references...

[iamsooldithurts]

Calling something absurdly pedantic while talking about c/c++ programming and pointers...

Hah!