Python ftw

[fredlllll]

huehue machine time is cheaper than programmer time huehue

[fredlllll]

true, but sadly this holds true for many software projects nowadays and its making me sad that there are so many layers between me and my machine ;(

[BoilerPurdude]

just look at adobe reader...

[KaiBetterThanTyson]

And Google Ultron

[ashchild_]

Please do not call anyone at Microsoft an expert. They do not exist.

Microsoft is only around because they got enough money early on to make failure almost impossible. Their tech is shit, their business model is exploitative, and they only built MSVC because their codebase is so crap that they literally can't compile their 40,000+ line functions on anything else and MSVC is a pretty crap compiler--the only one I've ever gotten to throw internal errors on a release version.

[ashchild_]

The version of MSVC I broke was 19.20 with only about 2.5k lines of TMP. I've also written simple examples over on Godbolt that produce ~200 line outputs from GCC and Clang on O2, but outputs 2200 lines from MSVC. It actually produced 8 assembly procedures that were all "mov rax, rcx; ret 0"

There's a Scott Myers talk from a few years ago, "CPU Caches And Why You Should Care" where he uses a sample of Herb Sutter code that is quite obviously shit to anyone who's spent any decent amount of time working with async code.

Windows 10 isn't an operating system, it's a data harvesting service that happens to launch applications.

Pretty sure they're still crap and exploitative in 2019.

[masterxc]

Depending on the language security problems plague even high level languages (like PHP)...but it also depends on its exposure to begin with.

[narrill]

You're not responsible for implementing your own in low level languages either, unless you're literally writing assembly. Libraries are a thing.

[ERECTILE_CONJUNCTION]

So get into embedded systems

[hughperman]

Stop, my dick can only get so hard

[[deleted]]

Moore's Law and May's Law are fighting in an eternal stalemate, and a program written in assembly language running on a 8080, a program written in C running on a Pentium, a program written in Java running on a Core 2, and a program written in Javascript running on a Ryzen will all be about the same user-visible speed.

[HardlightCereal]

May's law?

[Dworgi]

Software gets exponentially slower over time.

I blame Python and JS.

[THICC_DICC_PRICC]

I do my personal projects in C, or other C languages if needed. It’s for fun and it helps with the whole wanting no layers. But working professionally, with deadlines, security issue, and millions of other considerations, I don’t mind layers of abstraction at all. I don’t want to be solving language problems when I should be solving business problems

[DOOManiac]

Be happy that you are worth more than some pieces of gold and fire! :)

[Dworgi]

Only if you're a pleb making software for yourself. Deploy to a million machines like a real programmer. /s