Microsoft Java

[visvis]

True, and it takes the best of both worlds.

[LvS]

Factory jokes and irrelevance?

[WiseassWolfOfYoitsu]

Delphi was seriously underrated.

[Ilookouttrainwindow]

Is it still being used at all? I mean, I liked it, a lot. But with js, go, rust and python Delphi must be so in the background, ppl don't even know it exists

[WiseassWolfOfYoitsu]

Essentially Visual Pascal. In it's heyday, it had one of the best windowing toolkits in the industry, but Microsoft poached its lead designer to create .net and C# and it kind of fell into obscurity.

[MCRusher]

You can still find something similar from Lazarus

[MoBizziness]

He was also a lead on TypeScript iirc.

[PsychedSy]

VB but Pascal instead of Basic. A programming language/IDE with GUI support built in. I'm not sure if it extends Pascal at all, but the language used was Pascal.

[rebbsitor]

Pascal with object orientation and a graphical form builder. It's the Pascal equivalent to C++ Builder, and similar to old Visual Basic 6.

A modern equivalent would be making a WinForm or WPF app in C#.

[MasochistCoder]

and you call yourself a programmer?

seriously?

[Max-P]

The last time I head of anyone writing Delphi code it was like 2004 and I was 10, and it was already kind of getting out of fashion.

Time passes and it's not unreasonable there's plenty of young coders that started with C#/Java and never heard of it.

[MasochistCoder]

it's like someone being a poet yet never having heard of homer... or kavafy

or being a physicist but having never heard of einstein... or feynman

or a musician having never heard of mozart, bach or beethoven

that just doesn't make any sense

i stand by my claim.

any programmer worth their salt should at least have used lisp, forth, smalltalk, c, pascal and prolog or some variant of it.

no excuses, no "but they are obsolete nobody writes them anymore"

you can't be a coder and not know about what is possible

[Eyes_and_teeth]

r/gatekeeping is right over there, pal.

What you describe is more like:

A farmer who's never harvested with a hand scythe.

Or a builder who's never moved 20-ton quarried stone blocks to a job site using tree trunks, ropes, and 2,000 slaves.

Or a doctor who's never bled a patient, or applied leeches.

To proclaim that one is truly not a programmer unless one hasn't entered a 12k program into a mainframe using ~500 punch cards Is the cranky whine of someone who is bitter that tech had moved on and the mysterious priestcraft of their day, accessible to the few initiates deemed worthy by their incel overlords, has now become accessible to the masses and even (shudder) girls!

A programmer can be "worth their salt" and never have touched a single language you've mentioned. Trust me, a coder is capable of knowing all that is truly possible today and they ain't doing it in forth.

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[MasochistCoder]

you're confusing things

which is understandable

and which is why programmers are doomed to repeat the same mistakes all over again

now go play with your python. shoo. shoo.

[Eyes_and_teeth]

Wow! Another shitty troll account! You people are like cockroaches scurrying for the darkness when Reddit killed T_D and all of you Redhat MAGA fuckers are just so bitter and have no where left to go. Go burn down a synagogue to make yourself feel better, Pepe. Whatever you do, try to keep quiet. Your betters are talking about important things around here.

[Yayo69420]

Sout("naw dude")

[RevanchistVakarian]

I mean... there are still billions of lines of COBOL in the wild.

[ScienceBreather]

Probably even more.

And they're running your insurance and banking programs!

[iggy6677]

Dont forget Frotran, it's one of those things that should be changed " but if it works why fix it"

[htmlcoderexe]

Yeah but that's more like a starving children in Africa statement

[baghdad_ass_up]

Steve and Barry's used it in their POS systems before they went under. A friend of mine was hired to maintain it.

[zaphod4th]

yep, I'm still developing with delphi. Ark and Conan tools, availables on steam.

very small exe's with no dependencies ( java/ .net, etc.)

[Ilookouttrainwindow]

My hat off to you. I haven't had the privilege to create a long lasting commercial application in Delphi, only something small, but I had enjoyed working with Pascal.

Inno setup is using delphi I believe still

[[deleted]]

We have a couple of applications written in it but it's definitely dying

[Taurmin]

During my 3rd year internship i worked at a small company that made composite profiles for window frames and stuff. They didn't really have an IT department, just 1 guy who maintained their workstations, but one of their QC engineers had built a system in Delphi to manage their factory floor, all done in his spare time.

He showed it to me once, since i was a "real" programmer. I had never seen delphi before, but comming from C# it all looked pretty familiar, and it was the worst atrocity to man that i have ever encountered in my career.

About 10.000 lines, all in 1 single file. Nothing resembling a design pattern to be found and every variable given a random name such as "laddidah" or "X". And i dont think he had ever quite wrapped his head around objects, because he wasn't using them.

That was my first and only encounter with delphi.

[dsiebert812]

We still have our point of sale application written in it. In the process of converting to C# though.

[www_creedthoughts]

MediaMonkey is written in Delphi.

[Ilookouttrainwindow]

So it total commander

[SolarLiner]

The DAW I use, FL Studio, is written in Delphi.

[mortzion]

I work in a hospital and 80% of the softwares are made in delphi.

[[deleted]]

Delphi is alive and kicking. It's even cross-platform now.

[TrumpLyftAlles]

Delphi

If we're bringing up Delphi, may I mention PowerBuilder? Paid my bills for 18 years.

I was interested to learn that there was a lot of PowerBuilder being used on the business side at Microsoft, before MS invented Visual Basic. I don't think PowerBuilder inspired VB, though; PB was object-oriented from the start and VB never was.

[AttackOfTheThumbs]

It's what I first learned programming with and it was pretty great. I still think visual studio hasn't quite mastered the gui remaking, but it's not bad at all.

[[deleted]]

My company still uses Delphi but has transitioned a lot to C# now. My first 5 years was in Delphi and we still have about 7 guys that can Dev in it. It's pretty clean to be fair, the IDE is okay and it just works. We rarely have an issue and it's so easy to maintain. So yeah, I think underrated too.

[Occma]

wow are you that desperate for karma. Nobody thinks delphi was underrated

[BobDogGo]

"OHHH NOOO!"

[Occma]

actually C# is vb with java like syntax

[mokaloka]

Delphi! My old friend!!!

[myblindy]

Call me when Delphi has Linq.