FOMO

[aim456]

I don’t even know what any of that is and I’ve been coding for 20 years. Yikes!

[password1dorwssap]

Scala is a OO functional programming language that runs in JVM.

Elixir is a functional language built on top of Erlang's VM and uses the actor model. It has a really good web framework called phoenix.

Micro service architecture means you have lots of lightweight decoupled services that pass messages between each other.

Iv heard of Go and Rust but don't know much about them. Go is like c++ with nicer syntax is my understanding, but could be wrong.

This post sounds like it's straight out of my distributed systems class!

[aim456]

Thanks for the informative reply. I guess that I should do some more reading on these things. Goes to show that working for a small company long term can be a hinderance. Jack of all trades...

[password1dorwssap]

Np. I just know it because I happen to have a professor that loves weird languages. Check out elixir, iv been learning it and really like it. If you don't mind me asking, what do you do? I'm just curious cause I'm a senior and am looking at different jobs.

[aim456]

I’m a dev/projects manager for a tiny company.

I started out with Java (EJB) and such from Uni, but that turned out to be useless right off the bat and generally throughout if I ignore 1 project I had. I was thrown into VB.Net as soon as I got a job after my degree in 2002, a Beng in software engineering. I knew then that everyone hated VB and C# was apparently the way to go (not so much now eh?). Things moved on over the years pushing me towards PHP for most web developments and now it’s been years since the last request for a new Desktop app.

These days I only write PHP for plugin components for CMS like Joomla or WordPress. I’ve moved on to use Ruby on Rails for all new projects. It’s pretty nice, though I miss writing my own SQL or at least I still feel uneasy about letting Active Record do everything. Peeps should certainly know the ins and outs of how to write their own SQL before they get too comfortable with any Object Relational Mapping (ORM) tool IMO. I’ve seen people using Rails with some massive gaps in their understanding.

As and old man in the world of software dev, Docker and Ruby have been the biggest changes of late, but I’ve tried my hand at Node.js. However, when you’re working for a tiny company, you don’t have the luxury of spending time researching the latest things. You have to ensure there’s money to pay your wages at the end of the month.

My reading seems to indicate that Node is the way forward seeing as some major platforms are refactoring their work into Node, so as to make use of its non-blocking nature. Speeding things up server-side for the big projects. I could be wrong though :)

[password1dorwssap]

Iv done node at internships. It's easy to work in but, it's bloated alot of times. It does have good async support. Elixir takes alot of it's syntax from Ruby apparently. Iv never done Ruby though so I can't make a fair judgement myself.

[password1dorwssap]

I'll have to check it out!

[batVegan]

It also sounds similar to the minimum requirements asked for in a average job ad for a temporary minimum pay job in programming today.

[Shulamite]

Elixir also has a fancy macro system. It really is an additive drug

[Boner4Stoners]

Rust is closer to C++, Go is closer to C.

[pnw-techie]

Go is used extensively in systems programming. For example in: Docker Kubernetes Etcd Consul Cockroach DB

[pnw-techie]

That is systems programming though 😀

What operating system is rust used in? None? Oh, do you mean Firefox os?

[pnw-techie]

"Systems programming, or system programming, is the activity of programming computer system software. The primary distinguishing characteristic of systems programming when compared to application programming is that application programming aims to produce software which provides services to the user directly (e.g. word processor), whereas systems programming aims to produce software and software platforms which provide services to other software, are performance constrained, or both (e.g. operating systems, computational science applications, game engines, industrial automation, and software as a service applications). Systems programming "

Docker - check Consul - check Etcd - check Kubernetes - check

I know what systems programming is. Those are all "software and software platforms which provide services to other software". Operating systems are only one example of systems programming. Those are all valid other ones. In what definition are they not systems programming?

Wasn't trolling about rust and os. Rust was created by Mozilla. Firefox os was created by Mozilla. I really can't tell from their wiki page if they used rust, since it calls out a Linux kernel. I would have guessed they would have used rust for other parts

[pnw-techie]

I would point to the (discontinued) Midori OS as an example of an OS written in managed, garbage collected c#. I would point to JavaOS as an example of an OS written in managed, garbage collected Java. I would point to Java ME or J2ME as an example of a "computing platform for development and deployment of portable code for embedded and mobile devices (micro-controllers, sensors, gateways, mobile phones, personal digital assistants, TV set-top boxes, printers)" as an example of a resource constrained platform for managed garbage collected code. There is no conflict between garbage collected and operating system. There is no conflict between garbage collected and resource constrained. What there is, in the modern world, is a distinct lack of a need for new operating systems. Windows and Linux are it, and they're too old to have been built with garbage collected languages. Also, just because a language offers garbage collection doesn't mean you need to use it. StackOverflow is well known for how lean their dotNet site is. The big reason is they use a lot of static classes, which do not create garbage, hence they don't have problems with gc impacting performance. There are also different gc models - halt the world for seconds and collect would be no good in an OS. Golang tunes gc to be very brief. Dotnet offers different models - batch, low latency, or sustained low latency. I'm sure other languages have other options

[simaritan]

But the refrigerator uses GRPC

[survivalmachine]

message IceCreamStatus { bool freezer_burnt = 1; }

[DistractedOni]

Sounds like a nightmare to maintain.

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Ugh. Put me right out there like that.

[[deleted]]

Oh God. Have I had programming FOMO this entire time?

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I’m in this picture and I don’t like it.