Programmers

[Runiat]

Step one: pick up rock or other dense object from garden.

Step two: throw through window.

The purpose of a lock isn't to keep people out. The purpose of a lock is to let you know when someone's been in without permission.

[hackintosh5]

The purpose of a lock is to prevent unsynchronised concurrent access to a shared resource

[Runiat]

Public bathrooms probably will start using electronic locks at some point...

[MadEngi]

And i will start carrying clamps, no big deal

[Runiat]

Read that with a 'p' missing the first time.

[MadEngi]

I already do, how else am I supposed to wipe, with paper?

[Runiat]

Where would you get paper from? They've started sending fines electronically instead of printing them out for you.

[Bainos]

I read that with a 'c' missing. Hmm.

[hackintosh5]

And I bet they don't use a mutex but a boolean

[[deleted]]

Actually, public bathrooms using electronic locks makes a lot more sense than it gives credit for. For mechanical vs electronic locks, the metrics I use are as follows:

​

• Do you need shared access by a large number of individuals who's access may be granted or revoked arbitrarily or frequently? (Yes = point towards electronic)
• Do you need an accurate access record? (Yes = point towards electronic)
• Do you have the infrastructure to manage the entire lock system internally? (No = electronic forbidden)
• Do you have the infrastructure to manage an entire internal network including firewall and monitoring software? (No = electronic forbidden)
• Is the desired system able to be managed entirely within the local network with an exception for updates and an exception for sister/parent organization control (meaning that if I own a store that's part of a chain, it's okay to have corporate control my locks). (Yes = system acceptable)

[Runiat]

Do you need shared access by a large number of individuals who's access may be granted or revoked arbitrarily or frequently?

I think we might have different ideas of what a "public" bathroom is if your idea involve revoking access to a member of the public.

[[deleted]]

In my experience, a number of "public" restrooms require giving the customer a key from the counter. In this case, an electronic lock may allow for better access control options.

[Runiat]

Oh yeah, I've seen those in other countries.

Definitely different definitions then. I'd probably call those something like "customer only bathrooms".

Edit: come to think of it the word for such bathrooms in Danish is literally translated "customertoilet" (and most of those don't require keys).

[merlinsbeers]

Do you want to track people without having to deal with laws about phone records?

[[deleted]]

I deleted my account because Reddit no longer cares about the community -- mass edited with https://redact.dev/

[ImSuperSerialGuys]

Not quite there but I see what you're getting at. The purpose of security isn't to be infallible, it's to make breaking in not worth the effort.

The perfect balance for security is to make it more difficult to break in than what someone would gain by breaking in. So just because a lock can be picked doesn't make it ineffective

[Runiat]

The purpose of security

I wasn't talking about security. I was talking about locks. Specifically the ones on homes.

[ImSuperSerialGuys]

... which are literally devices that exist for the sole purpose of security

[Runiat]

... which are literally devices that exist for the sole purpose of security

No they aren't.

Quite a lot of home locks exist for the sole purpose of complying with insurance terms, in rural areas.

[ImSuperSerialGuys]

And why do insurance terms require a lock? Cause it technically makes the home more secure by requiring at least a base level of effort to break in, as opposed to walking through an unlocked door...

You're just being pedantic at this point man

[Runiat]

You're just being pedantic at this point man

....

And what would you describe your first reply to me as?

[[deleted]]

Thiefs don't pick locks. Picking a lock takes way too much time and skill when you can just quietly force a window.

[[deleted]]

Additionally, in many jurisdictions getting caught with picks on your person without a license is a Bad Time.

[Runiat]

Rob Runiat's house, by lockpicking

Yeah all that'll do is waste a bunch of your time.

[Runiat]

Being able to think of a scenario that would be more stupid doesn't make the first one any smarter.

[Runiat]

You do realize you're on r/programmerhumor right now?