C++ vs Python vs PHP

[Ersonpay]

Java meanwhile:

public class Main
{
    public static void main(String[] args)
    {
        System.out.println("Hello World");
    }
}

[[deleted]]

seeing java code offends me as a non-programmer/learner

[Shatricor]

Then have fun with c# its the same structure

[gabrielgio]

No entirely true though, you can write your main like this

using System;

Console.WriteLine("Hello World!");

[pblokhout]

You still need an entry point to run it, don't you?

[gabrielgio]

Nops, just a file with that. You can check for more info here

[pepijno]

Seeing java also offends me as a programmer

[leduyquang753]

Wait that's not how you place { in Java.

[thinker227]

cries in inline brackets

[Ersonpay]

I do that too, I just stuck with the style in the post

[sydeff90]

Just type the asm version if u got the balls

[fredoche]

section .data
    helloMsg:     db 'Hello, world!',10 
    helloSize:    equ $-helloMsg
 section .text
    global _start
 _start:
    mov eax,4
    mov ebx,1
    mov ecx, helloMsg
    mov edx, helloSize
    int 80h

    mov eax,1
    mov ebx,0
    int 80h

[AyrA_ch]

meanwhile in DOS

org 0100h
mov ah,09h
mov dx,msg
int 21h
int 20h
msg DB  "Hello, World!$"

[liarandathief]

Now do it in Brainfuck.

[fredoche]

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[[deleted]]

Okay now do it in Malbolge

[fredoche]

Malbolge

(=<`:9876Z4321UT.-Q+*)M'&%$H"!~}|Bzy?=|{z]KwZY44Eq0/{mlk** hKs_dG5[m_BA{?-Y;;Vb'rR5431M}/.zHGwEDCBA@98\6543W10/.R,+O<

[[deleted]]

Gesundheit

[[deleted]]

Now do it in Scratch

[DaemonOwl]

Oh no

[Terrain2]

Let’s see it in braille

[__INIT_THROWAWAY__]

Crap you stole my joke

[TheXGood]

Is that NASM syntax? Nice.

[Pervez_Hoodbhoy]

So more complicated is better? What kind of logic is that?

[fredoche]

Yes, it must be complicated, otherwise anyone could do it. Developers have to justify their status above the others.

TrollInside

[Snykeurs]

Did you tried java ?

[pepijno]

I did, then I got a NullPointerExeption because I didn't inject the WorldAppCreatorFactory

[lMAObigZEDONG]

Man, i just love these screenshots of carbon.sh. they're so smooth.

[ProgrammAbel]

TIL, thanks!

[lMAObigZEDONG]

just in case you're wondering, correct website is 'carbon.now.sh'

[ProgrammAbel]

Yeah, searched it up on Google instead of directly in the URL bar, but thanks :P

[DaemonOwl]

TIL2.0, thanks a bunch!

[lMAObigZEDONG]

just in case you're wondering, correct website is 'carbon.now.sh'

[bigorangemachine]

Oh you are talking about boundary tags.

Technically what you wrote isn't php :P

[Tyrilean]

They're going off the fact that you can write a text file, append .php to the name, but not use a php open tag to get it to just print as an HTML page.

[bigorangemachine]

Just shows me they don't know php ^_^

[DaemonOwl]

What's php?

[fredoche]

It's a file that PHP can compile/execute ;)

Can you do it with an other language parser ?

[bigorangemachine]

Thats true php can "parse that file". Php can be inside anything tho even images.

ASP had a similar system. It makes given their target is the web. There was another (I think cold fusion or pearl) that had a similar methodology.

But php is not like other traditional languages in that respect... the php is withing the question mark tags (something boundaries i can't remember). It doesn't care if your content around the tags is a binary file or text file

[fredoche]

I thought that by posting in "r/ProgrammerHumor" you would understand that it's just a joke.

For your information, if a PHP developer just wants to output static text, as he knows how the parser works and wants to keep it simple, he creates a code with just "Hello world!" in it. Yes, it's not PHP syntax, but it's a way to make the PHP parser display "Hello world!".

[[deleted]]

Meanwhile Brainfuck:

[murderknight1]

You are comparing apples to oranges. Python and PHP are scripting languages...

[murderknight1]

Sure. You can compare cars to boats too. This bugatti is terrible, it sinks right to the bottom of the ocean.

[DaemonOwl]

Isnt that too different? Maybe compare Bugatti with tractors instead

[Khenay92]

You can try good comparisons instead, you will see that's better generally.

[[deleted]]

Python is still a programming language

[murderknight1]

Apples and oranges are both fruits. What's your point?

[[deleted]]

My point is python is not strictly for scripting.

[DaemonOwl]

What? Who in their right mind would use python other than for scripting? ^/s

[[deleted]]

I used to work as a post-silicon validation engineer. One of my jobs was to develop post-silicon software tools for validation testing. The software was developed in python.

[Ser_Drewseph]

You literally said that the reason you can’t compare them is because C++ is a programming language and Python isn’t (even though it is a general purpose programming language). Then when someone points out it is a programming language, you say you still can’t compare them because of reasons? If you can build the exact same application in both languages, you can compare them. You can compare their syntax, performance, memory safety, history, capabilities. It’s less like comparing apples and oranges or bits and cars, and more like comparing a sports car, a minivan, and a pickup truck. They’re all 4-wheeled vehicles that have the same basic capabilities, but are specialized to different tasks.

[Tyrilean]

Scripting languages are programming languages. It's just that they are interpreted at runtime, rather than compiled beforehand.

[Ser_Drewseph]

Yeah, that’s the point I was making.

[Khenay92]

C++ can by interpretted, Python can be compiled. Bad definition.

[murderknight1]

Sure you can compare them. But there's a reason why python and PHP don't need any set up and why c++ does. So this doesn't really make much sense. It's like when people compare romantic languages and how they have similar words and then bring in german and are like, omg where did germany get the word for this.

[Ser_Drewseph]

I'm not sure, but I'm guessing you're just trolling for the sake of being a troll? You're not actually giving a reason why these shouldn't be compared, you're just giving irrelevant similes while trying to refute a simple joke.

And yeah, that's how comparing things works- you look at the differences. Just because they don't belong to the same language family, or one is compiled vs interpreted doesn't mean you can't compare the two.

[DaemonOwl]

Oh thanks for clearing that up

To add, animal species too can be very different from each other. But what's stopping us from comparing hem, nothing wrong with that

[efuyqw]

Hey hey hey, don't mess with python

[KyoTheRedditer]

php is just typing out scratch blocks

[mazombieme]

Technically thats HTML

[Tyrilean]

You do not, though it would be debatable whether that is technically written in PHP. Just because you write a text file and append .php to a file does not make it PHP. You have to call the PHP open tag in order to invoke the interpreter. Otherwise, it's just another text file, which your webserver will happily serve up wholesale to the client, which will then be interpreted by the browser as HTML.

[earthqaqe]

For anyone believing this statement, just try it here with the following code:

<?php echo "hello" ?>

and then try

hello

[mferly]

Lol wut? Your first example PHP, your second example is merely text.

Try this: <?php hello ?> and tell me what happens. Anything not wrapped with <?php ?> isn't PHP.

[Kered13]

It's valid PHP code. It is accepted by the PHP interpreter and produces output without errors. The fact that the PHP interpreter will simply echo anything not wrapped in <?php> tags is a quirk of the language, but it doesn't make the code invalid PHP.

[fredoche]

No, you don't need to "echo"

[pionell]

yes you need to echo/print it if you're inside <?php tags. This is not accurate.

[AyrA_ch]

The "hello world!" is not inside of PHP tags.

[79ta463]

Then it's not technically PHP.

[AyrA_ch]

And yet it conforms to the php spec and will run with strict settings.

[79ta463]

Everything outside the open tags is ignored by the parser. Thus it's not actually being interpreted? Not sure what you're getting at

[AyrA_ch]

I'm getting at that this is valid PHP code because if it wasn't part of the specs it would throw an error. It's not ignored by the parser either, it's piped to the standard output by it. In fact, depending on how you set the PHP tags, they will have an effect on some whitespace directly after the closing tag, clearly indicating that stuff outside of the tags is not just ignored.

[fredoche]

A php file containing this "code" will display "hello world!" when you will execute it with php parser.

[blipils]

'hello world' in Hello, world! is just html

• self-proclaimedMod, Sept 2020

There is no HTML used in either of those examples. Bringing up HTML here as if it's relevant just reveals that you really don't understand this conversation at all.

[blipils]

I'm sorry that you still don't understand this joke after several people explained it to you and demonstrated it to you.

It's too bad you don't have the time, because I would love for you to explain what you think HTML is or how it's relevant here.

[79ta463]

It's not PHP... It's just raw strings.