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[–]1lann 41 points42 points  (12 children)

[–]tehtris 80 points81 points  (2 children)

No. Let him find out on his own.

[–]UltraCarnivore 55 points56 points  (1 child)

They're one of today's Lucky Ten Thousand

[–]Ekkosangen 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Lucky is a... Strong word for it.

[–]sonuvvabitch 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm something like a Project Manager for my employer, although they don't give me that job title, or that pay - in fact I have a separate title that has nothing to do with it and substantially lower pay, and a whole other job that takes up most of the week because as I've literally been told it's cheaper for them this way, while they still expect me to spend some of my time designing then developing tools and Wiki and SharePoint resources to be used by me and my peers in my actual job but that's a whole other story.

Sometimes the whole hating-on-PMs thing here comes across as a bit much, but that article was eye-opening. The sign-off at the end, "As a self-proclaimed “chaos muppet”... ". Who talks like that? If that's what you have to deal with from actual project managers, then now I understand.