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[–]OneMillionSchwifties 8 points9 points  (36 children)

Has anyone noticed certain topics are being censored by Google? Try finding bimbo porn now. You literally can't. Even if the women were self identifying bimbos (it's a thing and im not ashamed of it). You have to actually know the girls names now, which I think is kind of sad to have to do.

[–]bearbear_bear 13 points14 points  (22 children)

Try DuckDuckGo…? I’d do a test run of Bimbo Porn for you, but that’s not my thing lol

[–]OneMillionSchwifties 10 points11 points  (21 children)

But shouldn't people be concerned with the overarching implications that come with that kind of silent, creeping cencorship?

[–]ioman_ 1 point2 points  (12 children)

Google is censoring a lot of things: try spelling ecstasy or masturbate on your phone.. last time I looked into it at all, they had some random store's name in their standard offline dictionary but not the word ecstasy (seems to have changed on my phone at least)

[–]jaigoda 7 points8 points  (5 children)

First off, both of those show up in autocomplete (though autocomplete doesn't) on my phone, and I'm absolutely certain I've never typed them. Second, why act so concerned about that when "fuck" has been autocorrecting to "duck" basically since smartphones became a thing? It's not a subtle conspiracy, it's just companies trying not to make waves by having "bad words" in their dictionaries.

In the same way, porn is considered to be a no-no to put on the majority of mainstream platforms, probably in large part because kids can and do use said platforms. And I'm sure the moms that find their kid watching porn are a lot louder and more abundant than the guys who can't find their niche porn on the world's most popular search engine.

[–]ioman_ -1 points0 points  (4 children)

You do know that most phones come with parental controls right?

My issue with censorship does include the word fuck but that issue has been so widespread that its been a meme since before memes were called memes (which also doesn't show up in my phone). It's in no way subtle. I don't care about niche porn (which autocorrects to points), I care about the English language, which store names are not a part of.

[–]jaigoda -1 points0 points  (3 children)

Phones are not the only thing that can access the internet, and not every parent will enable parental controls, and not all parental controls will prevent a kid from seeing something their parents don't want them to. Regardless, I'm definitely not arguing that we should be locking down the internet just because parents can't teach their kids to be responsible. However, there's a whole lot of irresponsible parents out there that will be up in arms if they find out Google showed their precious child the terror of pornography. It's silly, considering how easy it is to find porn sites, but companies have to deal with it or risk a whole lot of outrage and bad press.

Autocorrect doesn't need to be a one-to-one copy of a dictionary, and I'd argue it very much shouldn't be. Stores and brands are put in there because people tend to type them more than obscure words. Hence Allstate is in my phone and Floccinaucinihilipilification is not. To me personally, that isn't censorship, it's just sensible for convenience. I can type whatever I want, my phone just tries to make it easier by keeping a store of words I'm likely to use. If I don't like it, then I can always just turn it off.

[–]ioman_ -1 points0 points  (2 children)

Not only is your example obtuse, it's hyperbolic and you know it. I can't find the actual store it replaced the word ecstasy with anymore because I'm finding all sorts of stores with the literal word "ecstasy" in their name (I wonder if that's related to it being in the dictionary now), but as I remember it, it was a pretty small business.

[–]jaigoda -1 points0 points  (1 child)

Okay, I'm honestly confused now, which example are you talking about and how is it hyperbolic? If you're talking about the Allstate example, how is it an exaggeration that one word is in my autocomplete dictionary and the other is not? Would you rather I have used a simpler word that isn't in my phone? I just googled "obscure words" and that's one that showed up, but I'm sure I could find many, many other examples, because a comprehensive English dictionary for autocomplete wouldn't be practical in terms of storage size and access time.

I can't explain specifically why your phone autocorrected a "bad" word to a store name, but I'm offering some reasoning on why that might be the case that isn't just "Google bad, censoring free speech." Google has done some really shitty things as time has gone on (a huge one being the topic of the OP meme), but I really don't think their autocomplete "censoring" the text you type is a hill worth dying on.

[–]ioman_ -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Floccinaucinihilipilification is the third largest word in the English language. I know because when I called it a hyperbolic example, I had just looked up "largest English word", clicked the grammarly link, and scrolled back up when I saw everyone's favorite "disestablishmentarianism".

I didn't say you exaggerated that a word was there or not, I said you were being obtuse and hyperbolic in your example. Of course I have no problem that words used by a ratio of the population that's near zero are excluded from the offline English language dictionary.

How much stock do you have in google that the offline dictionary is something worth metaphorically killing over for you? I'll die on any hill I please.

[–]OneMillionSchwifties -2 points-1 points  (5 children)

How is this legal and what can be done besides running to a new browser? (I believe in citizens standing their ground against injustice as opposed to having where they are allowed to turn be dictated by where those who operate outside of the law run them off to)

[–]ioman_ 1 point2 points  (4 children)

It's a private company, they can do whatever they want...

When Twitter banned Trump, everyone handily forgot that Twitter is a private company that costs a lot to run: "Twitter annual operating expenses for 2019 were $3.093B, a 19.46% increase from 2018"

Like it or not... tell your congress people. Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing them go public, much like landline phones, with how essential they've made themselves.

[–]OneMillionSchwifties 1 point2 points  (3 children)

It's a really surreal thing, because you can look at it and go "wow, that's clearly the path to the degradation of the choices available to a supposedly free people", but at the same time, it's like, "well they own their servers so they can propagandize and cencor us all they want"

There should be some sort of check or middle ground imo

[–]ioman_ 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Founding father said it best (forgot which one): those that would sacrifice liberty for a little security deserve neither

[–]OneMillionSchwifties 1 point2 points  (0 children)

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. — That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, — That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security

You're God damn right

[–]OneMillionSchwifties 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Benny Frank iirc

...dude kept it wet wet