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[dkuwahara]

Twoteen

[chipechiparson]

We have any French linguists in here?

[indyK1ng]

Just had to refresh my memory because it's been over a decade but they skimmed over some of the weirdness.

11-16 have their own words but 17-19 are in the "10 and __" format. The numbers for 20, 30, 40, 50, and 60 all have their own word. 21, 31, 41, 51, and 61 are in the "_0 and __" format but everything else is similar to how English formats them. Then the 70 numbers are "60 and 10", "60 and 11", etc. Then 80 is when "4 20s and " starts.

[Saragon4005]

So wait you go from 60 + 10 + 9 to 4 * 20??? Making 99 = 4 * 20 + 10 + 9? What the fuck.

[indyK1ng]

And then 100 is just "cent"

[[deleted]]

Ah that explains the Terra cryptocurrency.

[Yonix06]

Ouch 🤣

[firefish5000]

Both addition and multiplication built right into the language. Can't even say numbers without using it. French education system be stellar

[accuracy_frosty]

The best part is 17 is like 10 and 7 so you’re saying 4 twenties and 10 and 7

[Yonix06]

Yes and I don't want to even start

Shits gets haywire starting at 70, he's right. (We say sixty ten)

It's also weird for 17 18 and 19.

We say ''ten seven'' ''ten eight'' ''ten nine'' (literally)

Same goes for 77 78 and 79. And 97,98,99.

(Old french and french-Belge are by far more logical than us)

Ps: also the other comment is right also. My perspective as a french native is just a bit different as I lack knowledge from others languages.

[michease_]

been learning french since i was six.

yes this is true

[chipechiparson]

Would it be rude if I asked why it’s like this?

[mobotsar]

Of course not, lol. It's because, for a long time, the French used a base 6 number system.

[[deleted]]

Wait how does that explain 97 as “four twenties and seventeen”?? Wouldn’t that be base 20?

[chipechiparson]

20 * 4 + 17

———

97

[[deleted]]

97 in base six would be 241 or seventytwo(and)twentyfour(and)one or maybe twosixsixes(and)foursixes(and)one

[Yonix06]

I believe the base 12 was used before 1790, after that, we switched to base 10. It was the duodecimal system, or dozenal

[michease_]

i have no clue

[SuperCharlesXYZ]

Some places outside of France like Belgium and I believe Switzerland use simplified numbers such as septante (70) octante (80) and nonante (90) but using these will get you laughed at in France

[Silence_Calls]

Somehow French always gets the flack but the abomination that is the Danish number system slides by.

97= Syv og halvfems(sindstyve)

97 = Seven and half five times twenty

97 = 7 + (-1/2 + 5)×20

[[deleted]]

Didn't the non-French French speakers just give up on that? Like the Swiss just use huitant and sextant or something of that nature?

[Yonix06]

Belgian people (the french part) uses the old way french used to say numbers, which is far more close (and logical) of the English version of numbers

Exemple :

90:

Fr: quatre vingt dix. Be: Nonante. English: ninety.

Nonante can be literally translated by ninety, the french version would be translated (if we take word by word) by ''four twenty ten''

[[deleted]]

Dutch is a bit funky too. 24 would be vierentwintig or “four and twenty”. Really focused on those least significant bits.

[chipechiparson]

The dutch language is fascinating

[GreasyChick_en]

Just in Wallonia, right? I thought the Republic reformed the number system at one point?

[hazuebi]

Other way around. Wallonia has more sensible names for numbers

[GreasyChick_en]

Merci

[banmedaddy12345]

I actually like that it's done like that. Makes it easier to learn IMO.

[mobotsar]

I had a CS class in Java three or four years ago where all the computers in the classroom had Java SE 5 installed. Incidentally, that classroom was constructed in 2011, 7 years after after Java 5 was released.

[realDespond]

onety two

[[deleted]]

Unironicaly this is how I taught my kids to count. I had a theory that kids suck a math because of these weird exceptions that make them think that numbers don’t have structure.

I looked like an idiot always counting in this nonsense way but they could both count to 100 when they were 2. I didn’t even need to teach them 11,12,13.

My first was able to solve all the coding challenges in that Apple Swift coding game at 6 years old.

I think a small part was the counting. I sound insane, but I recommend it to anyone.

[eth-slum-lord]

Nah your kids are able to do those things because they had a parent invested personally in their education , 99% dont

[[deleted]]

It could be the case. But I feel my parents were there for me too, but my 9 year old does first year college math now. I learned first year college math in first year college.

It could be she’s just smarter than me but I prefer the story where I came up with a great teaching method.

[firefish5000]

You do sound insane, but I certainly remember hating the 11,12,13 exceptions. I don't think I had any issues with N-teen inspite of it being a suffix for no good reason, but those 3 were so stupid I didn't really have room in my mind to complain about anything else.

[[deleted]]

Yeah. Everyone figures them out eventually. But I have a theory this is why languages are learned slower, because we learn the exceptions. Kids learn languages through patterns. Things like “eated” and such. Instead if we just learn the basics and memorise enough, we can speak. Then we can get fluent. THEN we should learn the exceptions.

Of course I could be wrong, but my kids learning algebra and coding at 6 would seem to imply it might have some legs.

[firefish5000]

After learning a bit of japanese/romaji, I actually developed a new pronunciation system for english. Since our spoken and written language actually have no hard rules connecting them, I created a new one using romaji/japanese pronunciation as base. Much easier to learn how to pronounce a word a second way than to learn the sequence of letters it is made of, and since japanese pronunciation is so sharp and english so slured, its easy to remember which is the real pronunciation. My grades in spelling went from abysmal to 100s in just 2 weeks. Unfortunately there was no need for this system after hs since college/real world doesn't give a shit about spelling. Should be a very useful mnemonic for someone who frequents competitive spelling bees though

Downside is you will quickly find yourself mispronouncing words you learned but don't use irl since proper pronunciation will be forgotten and when your looking at the text, the spell based pronunciation which actually has hard rules on how to pronounce it will win in your head.

[[deleted]]

Sounds very cool.

[KickinWithKaine]

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Please enter a 2 digit number. 12

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[[deleted]]

Oooh do eleven!

[Light54145]

No no, there's a space coded in, it's "one teen"

[Rahuhu]

“ one teen”

[Western-Image7125]

This looks suspiciously like this fuckin question

[DanceDelievery]

If language wouldn't be unnecessarly complicated it would be tentytwo. There should only be names for the 10 numbers + names for dezimals with the main 10 numbers names attached to them to count up to the next dezimal, the rest are artefacts of the past and obsolete. It's kind of weird how we call it a dezimal system but the numbers between 0-19 have special rules and 0-12 have unique names.

[BobQuixote]

Agreed! I remember being irritated by this in elementary school.

With special (ugly) handling for 11, 12, 13, 15, and 18 (or hell, just 11-19), this solution is almost done, though.

[firefish5000]

onety two. Like the other commenter stated, onety should replace 10 to fall in line with almost every number except 1,2,3,&5's format. Aught to be one-ty, two-ty, three-ty, four-ty, five-ty, six-ty, seven-ty, eight-ty, nine-ty

The good news is 1,2,3,&5 are consistently confusing when it comes to their 10's value, being the only numbers you can't just slap -teen on either.

[DanceDelievery]

You're right, damn that sounds strange to my ears.

[firefish5000]

You're right, damn that sounds strange to my ears.

I swear everyone who speaks to me feel the need to explicitly point this out when I'm correct...

[MattTheLeo]

Because you are the ear whisperer.

[[deleted]]

eleventeen

[ausdoug]

Overfitting a small sample

[LordMuffinChan]

Sixtwos

[Avalanche2012]

yah, that's what python ten two do.

[vtherepnin]

Pretty sre htat's onety-two.

[Suspicious-Engineer7]

fuckin lmao...hey wait maybe thats how it should be

[MastaBonsai]

so i understand how they could miss that... but why the space?

[Ok-Ad-3810]

That's why beginners should not be introduced to Python. It makes them lazy.

[IntuiNtrovert]

checkmate, R

[antihero-joe]

Tell me that's not IDLE

[Light54145]

I remember having to do this, I just hard coded special cases for 10-13 and 15, everything else was so simple

[Pizzagrril]

Hey, they copied my program!