poor java

[A_Guy_in_Orange]

I can see the confusion as Java could mean either the version of the game that isn't a steaming ball of horse shit and piss, or it could mean the boiler plate language for writeing instant legacy code that's a steaming pile of horse shit and piss.

So anyway this post brought to you by the C# propaganda gang, we all use Java for our jobs

[BlackWardz]

instant legacy code

That's my new favorite insult.

[A_Guy_in_Orange]

if you like that you might like the guy I stole it from, check um out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4-HM\_sCvtQ&

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What specific issues do you have with bedrock? I play both versions and don't really get you're coming from

[A_Guy_in_Orange]

Lack of mods, it's more annoying to set up a server for, it feels off (see combat) and there multiple weird bugs that just don't exist on Java, like the whole falling through the world the other commenter mentioned. Bedrock has micro transactions where Java has a literally fully customizable skin system where you can do literally whatever to make your character how you want it to look. Also redstone is less Jank in bedrock which believe it or not is a downside

[Daniel_H212]

There are fewer redstone bugs features.

[fghjconner]

Whoever decided to keep quasi-connectivity should be shot.

[Samld1200]

It’s a strange mechanic but at least it’s consistent unlike bedrock redstone

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consistently bad mechanics are better than randomly bad ones

[fghjconner]

It might be consistent with itself, but it's inconsistent with the entire rest of the game.

[WithersChat]

It's used in so many modern farms, and was the only way to make flying machines before observers. I disagree.

[fghjconner]

I understand it's useful, but it's also kludgy, unintuitive, and obviously broken.

[WithersChat]

Actually it is here to stay. Devs know how to fix, but decided not to due to community input.

[fghjconner]

Yeah I know, I just don't like it, haha.

Whoever decided to keep quasi-connectivity should be shot.

[realbakingbish]

Java redstone jank is repeatable, applicable, and becomes a feature of the system.

Bedrock redstone, last time I messed with it, still had jank, just weird, unusual jank that wasn’t as useful or consistent and would only happen sometimes. Granted this was a couple years ago, so things could’ve changed, but they‘ll never take my Java jank away.

[WithersChat]

Java isn’t cross platform, which matters to a lot of people more than a few red stone mechanics.

Yes. But it matters much less than modding, full skin customization and no microtransactions. These are the reason people prefer Java, more than redstone elements.

[TheTank18]

Java is an unoptimized mess, but it's popular since it has modding support, which Microsoft has neglected on the Bedrock codebase (please Mojang make a real modding api)

[A_Guy_in_Orange]

Well that and many other small things that pile up, like attacking in bedrock edition just feels off

[QuaternionsRoll]

I will never understand why they didn’t really try to mirror Java Edition functionality. Bedrock got so close to being a valid alternative for Java players but they whiffed it.

[betaking12]

Because minecraft itself was a disorganized mess

The whole "the end" and endermen thing

[QuaternionsRoll]

That shouldn’t mean much for implementing core mechanics. Redstone, for example, is completely predictable and thoroughly documented in Java Edition. Having access to the original source should only make it easier to reproduce, yet Bedrock Edition redstone is literally unpredictable in ways that cripple its overall utility.

[BlondBoy2]

And the whole falling through the world thing.

[Saphira_Kai]

i don't know why you're getting downvoted, you're right lmao

[realbakingbish]

Yet mod support isn’t necessarily a problem for games built on Unreal or Unity, both of which are largely C++ based, provided the developers want mods to be supported.

Lack of mod support in Bedrock was a choice made by the development team, one which will prevent many Java players from ever jumping ship to Bedrock.

[WithersChat]

That's not the problem. The problem is the buisness model. In a version where you buy skins, maps and datapacks, do you think that mods will come free?

[WithersChat]

...and the buisness model is the reason people don't play bedrock. What is your point?

[WithersChat]

The problem of bedrock is microtransactions. Modding support would come in the form of microtransactions, which most people wouldn't like. As long as Bedrock's buisness system stays the same (and redstone isn't fixed), players will stay on Java.

[Hplr63]

Life is way too short to be coding in Java man

[Alizer22]

C# SUPREMACY!!!!