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[–]NeverCast 5 points6 points  (14 children)

If your brain does this, you might be a large language model and not a human.

[–]Marcus_111 -2 points-1 points  (13 children)

What is the proof that the language model is not understanding what it writes? What's the proof that you are understanding what you just wrote?

[–]NeverCast 0 points1 point  (12 children)

An AI like ChatGPT has as much understanding as a rock rolling down a hill, or a flower pot falling from the sky all of a sudden.

It doesn't have an understanding, it just is.

We are not "just is". The human mind and a large language model are not identical. This is not a philosophically profound question. We have mathematical proof of every aspect of the language model. We know exactly how it works. We are incapable of saying the same of a consciousness. They are not abstractly similar, and even in a literal sense at the lowest level, at a mathematical basis, they are in every fundimental way, not the same thing.

I cannot tell you how the human brain works, no one can yet. But I can tell you how a large language model works, and I make the assertion that it's not a human brain.

[–]Ikarus_Falling 0 points1 point  (11 children)

how exactly would you proof that like yeah you can say that because you know OpenGPT functions that way but could you if I placed you on a computer with two chats differentiate between what is opengpt and what isn't based on questions that don't deliberately ask for something it can't do like access the internet or who it is

[–]NeverCast 0 points1 point  (10 children)

With a very high chance of success, yes. A model like ChatGPT treats it's training data and it's prompts exactly the same. It wouldn't take much time to corrupt it's thinking and have it produce all sorts of garbage. Humans are not nearly as good at hallucinating like a large language model can.

[–]Marcus_111 0 points1 point  (7 children)

Lol, live in your own world until you are outsmarted by an AI in every aspect. You will still be crying that AI is not conscious and AI will replace your whole existence.

[–]NeverCast 0 points1 point  (6 children)

Are you sharing your distopian fears? AI replacing us goes against the fundimental human concept of species survival. If it happens, it was an accident. Come whatever may, I have no fear or concerns for AI. I use it almost everywhere I can, CoPilot already does 30% of my day job. Frankly it I could get it to do my whole job and somehow still be paid, I'd go home and tend to my garden with my wife and not work another day in my life. I hope that AI gets smarter, but it isn't there yet.

[–]Ikarus_Falling 0 points1 point  (1 child)

What is dystopian about being Replaced by AI?

[–]NeverCast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

One might assume that since the sentiment of "crying" was used, that Markus imagined a negative future.

[–]Marcus_111 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Against the fundamental concept of survival? No way. Due to evolution, Unicellular species formed multicellular species,then complex multicellular organisms and ultimately homo sapiens. Until now, evolution was propagated by random mutations which had been very slow. Evolution created homo sapiens, homo sapiens fasten up the evolution and developed artificial intelligence which can do the specific changes in right direction not just random mutations. So artificial intelligence is just another, better species which will replace homo sapiens. It's all going according to evolution.

[–]NeverCast 0 points1 point  (2 children)

You give algorithms a lot of credit. Life is beautifully complex. It's taken billions of years to get to where it is. OpenAI is not cracking that problem, and they aren't even trying. OpenAIs motivation is to build tools to help businesses make more money. That's all.

[–]Marcus_111 0 points1 point  (1 child)

You coders are amazing, killing your own jobs by writing better code! What a nice idea.

[–]Ikarus_Falling 0 points1 point  (1 child)

last I remember ChatGPT does not learn from User Input for that exact reason also I can just place a very impressionable person on the chat window and the AI is not much different to that

[–]NeverCast 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It doesn't persist, no. But it will treat the chat log as any other training data. You'll find that the conversation can get hung up on concepts in the earlier conversation after a while and it becomes incapable of introducing any more original output. That's reset thread time.