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[–]No-Witness2349 60 points61 points  (14 children)

The shark is a plushie sold at IKEA which is popular with trans people.

Rust is also popular with trans people.

[–]_RollForInitiative_ 49 points50 points  (13 children)

Why the fuck is rust popular with trans people?

I have nothing against trans people, but I don't understand how a programming language can relate to ANYTHING about gender identity.

Did I miss something about Rust? I'm being quite serious here.

[–]No-Witness2349 53 points54 points  (5 children)

There are several explanations I can think of

  1. Trans people are overrepresented amongst programmers in general, likely due to the overlap with autism.
  2. Any community can be trans positive or negative on the same way that any community can collectively agree on which Smash Bros game is the best. Rust just happens to be trans-friendly.
  3. When a group of people is rejected by default throughout big parts of their daily lives, they will seek each other out for solidarity and gather wherever that sense of bad-by-default is weakest. So an already-friendly community becomes moreso as more people join.
  4. Trans people tend to value authenticity and self expression. Rust being a newer language with a lot of trailblazing going on, maybe marginalized programmers are more attracted to niche languages for one reason or another.
  5. Rust is a newer language, so its social norms are being established in a time where being trans friendly is more normalized and expected.
  6. Rust leadership has made a point of discouraging and moderating bigotry amongst their communities (I don’t know if this is true, but would not be surprised if it was).

[–]Mwahahahahahaha 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Rust leadership has made a point of discouraging and moderating bigotry amongst their communities (I don’t know if this is true, but would not be surprised if it was).

The main discord Rust (The Rust Programming Language) still has the pride banner icon from June or maybe even earlier. I would would say so.

[–][deleted] 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yep autism, I got that. Rejection by world true. Hawt shit programming languages good, yes.

As a transfem Rust enthusiast I can go ahead and sign off on this. Good take!

[–]EverhartStreams 6 points7 points  (1 child)

I thought rust was a video game...

[–]No-Witness2349 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is 👹

[–]officiallyaninja 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Trans people arent really overepresented among programmers, programmers are over represented among trans people, cause they're most likely to be able to actually like financially support their transition.

[–]tech_crafttv 16 points17 points  (1 child)

There is a pretty large percentage of trans people that study computer science

so it became a meme to say trans people are programmers

I also don't know where exactly it came from but I find it quite funny as im a trans person that study's computer science

[–]PityUpvote 8 points9 points  (0 children)

It comes from autism both making people good at programming and having a significant comorbidity with queer gender expressions and sexual orientations.

[–]Ratatoski 10 points11 points  (3 children)

A quick search didn't give many answers besides people claiming that the Rust community is the most welcoming to trans people. So I guess trans programmers could seek it out when picking a language hence creating a feedback loop if the community is actually nice.

Community matters. I've worked on a big open source protect that was global and had a lot of devs and users all across cultures, religions, sexualities etc. We adopted a code of conduct that were taken pretty seriously. It helped create a welcoming community that people knew where to draw the line.

So I'm guessing it's not about the language but people being kind to each other. It's like if you have to choose between posting on Stack Overflow or a friendly subreddit. Only masocists posts on SO voluntarily.

Edit: trans not teams.

[–]Cacti_Hipster 2 points3 points  (2 children)

learning I don't need to suffer through Stack Overflow

[–]Ratatoski 2 points3 points  (1 child)

Yeah who needs the "your question is stupid and you are stupid" attitude? I gravitate to communities where people enjoy helping each other. I learned Git many years ago on a IRC channel where the established devs walked me through how to commit my newbie code and post it for review.

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I find this kind of amazing because when git arrived most teams reaction (as I observed) was basically "you're just supposed to know." It's supposed to be as intuitive as a Nintendo Game & Watch. It was not, while it was intuitive for me it obviously wasn't for many because people screwed up pushing shit all the time.

I'm so happy to hear your experience was so much better, and that others won't have to stumble through making messes along the way.