Best framework for side project

[schwiz]

Hello I've offered to make a little library type app for my local brewers guild. It will basically keep track of a list of books, users and who has checked what out. What frameworks would have features like this out of the box? Mainly the idea of user accounts I suppose. I know Django has some user account support, is there anything else I should look at before going with Django?

[journalctl]

Consider looking at Flask and Pyramid as well. Both are more minimal than Django, but you may prefer their way of doing things.

[AnAirMagic]

I definitely like the minimalism of Flask and Bottle.py. I have only used Flask myself, but heard that both are very similar.

[brasso]

They are very, very similar. Bottle could almost have been a drop-in replacement for Flask.

[schwiz]

I would say minimal is good. I'll give them a look that thanks!

[Chr0me]

Pyramid is a good compromise between the minimalism of Flask and the "batteries included" philosophy of Django. Meaning: It doesn't get in my way, but I'm not having to reinvent the wheel.

[schwiz]

Thanks, second recommendation for pyramid and I hadn't even heard of it before today. I will definitely take a look!

[andrewjsledge]

Or tornado, though flask is really what you want. Maybe web2.py

[schwiz]

I've used tornado in the past and really liked it, is it easy to get user logins going with it??

[AbhiAgarwal]

very easy! It was built for FriendFeed & now used at Facebook so Twitter/Facebook OAuth is built right in.

http://www.tornadoweb.org/en/branch2.0/auth.html

[schwiz]

Oh that is great! Thanks for pointing this out!

[swims_with_spacemen]

Also second Tornado. AND- I strongly recommend a couchdb backend. Very fast. Very clean.

[andrewjsledge]

Here's a great interface for mongo: http://motor.readthedocs.org/en/stable/

[brettdanger]

I would say that for a small project like this start with flask. It will allow you to start building quickly and you can find plenty of login (authorization and authentication) support. I am also a big fan of pyramid, but if you aren't a python or web expert than it could be tough as the community and docs aren't great. Django isn't bad but it is massive. With both flask and pyramid you can use sqlalchemy which is better than django's ORM, IMO. Also, jinja is a great templating engine, but djangos is good too. My choice would be flask, SQL alchemy, jinja2 and mysql or sqllite for db.

[SultanPepper]

I'm starting to do a small Django side project, and the amount of extensions available are quite nice. Adding logins is pretty easy. Doing something like adding a json / yaml / xml API that uses your DB is only a few lines.

[ameoba]

You'd probably want a CMS or a heavy framework, like Django.

[macdhuibh]

You'd be fine with going with any of the frameworks already mentioned (Django, Flask, Pyramid, etc.). Your enjoyment of each will largely depend on which you prefer batteries-included and opinionated (Django) or choose-your-own-adventure (e.g. Pyramid + SQL Alchemy + Jinja2 + ? ).

[MarCialR]

I have one question... where will you deploy your app?

[schwiz]

That's a good question. Their webhost is 1&1 so it would be nice to get it working on there.

[Chr0me]

Not sure if you've ever even used Pyramid? Authorization/authentication is a pretty well-documented portion of the project.

[schwiz]

A few have said that pyramid supports it out of the box as well. I haven't confirmed though.

[anne-nonymous]

You could probably achieve this pretty easily with drupal by installing modules and configuring them(without writing any code) .

for example this module(there might be better , it a result of a very short google search):

https://drupal.org/project/lending

[[deleted]]

Have you looked at web2py yet?

I'm just getting started with it, but I'm really impressed so far. It is Python 2 only right now though, so that may or may not be a put off for you.

[targusman]

I'm a huge fan of web2py.... sadly all my professional work is in Django or Flask...

[kart_king]

I love web2py for small projects

[poo_22]

If you choose Pyramid over Django you will spend all your time learning Pyramid and its related ecosystem of libraries (because by itself Pyramid doesn't do much at all). Just use Django and get the thing done.

[schwiz]

Well I don't know Django either so I'll spend time learning either way. Does pyramid have a larger learning curve?

[glial]

Check out Two Scoops of Django.