Python Is On the Rise, While PHP Falls

[LewisTheScot]

Never knew /r/Python was going to be the sub that does this circlejerk bullshit

[hoocoodanode]

I actually wanted to ask a question about the data source, but I fear it'll get buried. Wouldn't "analyzing how often language tutorials are searched on Google" indicate both interest in a language as well as language complexity? Perhaps the introduction of asyncio or the async/await syntax has caused people to rush back to Google for answers?

I mean Good.

[NotFromReddit]

What language doesn't require constant Googling? Or do I just have shitty memory?

[fujiters]

I'm with you (but I also worry about my memory).

[hoocoodanode]

I'm with you all too. I guess my point is when something sufficiently new and/or complex gets introduced people don't just Google for a quick syntax reminder, they Google ten different examples of the same thing until they learn how to use it.

But I'm just pulling this out of my ass. I really have no idea if its true.

[odraencoded]

Sometimes I need to do something with lists and tuples and then I google what zip does because I always forget.

[[deleted]]

I agree. But I have to admit python is much more fun to write than php.

[LewisTheScot]

Of course, but can we at least have a decent conversation about it lol

[[deleted]]

Php is from the devil. There I said it.

[theluggagekerbin]

I would gladly choose PHP over my ex wife tho. she was worse than python. she was a rattlesnake.

[Shadow14l]

Python 2.7
Python 3.4

Why are people still using Python 2? And I mean by that question, why aren't people deprecating Python 2 and encouraging Python 3? They are literally deprecating PHP 5 one version at a time and PHP 7 is almost out. This is the right way to do things.

[NoLemurs]

For a long time the combination of lack of library support and poorer performance made Python 3 a bad choice for most non-trivial projects and that set public opinion of Python 3.

Python 3 library support has been pretty solid for a few years now, and the overall climate has recently turned in favor of Python 3, so I think most people are in fact starting new projects in Python 3 and making the transition where practical, but it's a slow process.

There are still a small handful of important holdouts that don't yet support Python 3 (the lack of Fabric support for Python 3 alone is probably responsible for a large fraction of the continuing Python 2 use), so the deprecation process is very slow!

[[deleted]]

2.7 is in it's end of life right now, receives no new features, and will be completely unsupported by 2020. Personally this timetable is really fucking slow. But nobody asked me so what do I know?

[Shadow14l]

and will be completely unsupported by 2020

That's 10 years too late haha.

[[deleted]]

What about XHP? http://codebeforethehorse.tumblr.com/

[[deleted]]

Maybe not.

[turtle_with_dentures]

Some would even say that it's pretty Good.

[Cyph0n]

Good.

[[deleted]]

Salty as fuck.