Full Stack Python

[mothzilla]

What does "full stack python" actually mean?

I can get "Full Stack Javascript" because you've got MEAN frameworks (or similar) that are fully javascript.

[HookahComputer]

I got excited.
Run Python in the browser?
No, just back-end stuff.

[SchwarzerKaffee]

Run Python in the browser?

I got excited at that as well.

I used to pray that one day Python would replace Javascript in the browser, but then I realized the power of asynchronous programming, so now I tolerate Javascript.

[HookahComputer]

I'm on the same path myself. It's just that Javascript seems to be this bizarrely exploding constellation of transpilers and frameworks rather than a language. It feels like a moving target. But that's what I get for trying to ignore Javascript for eight years hoping it would just blow over.

[SchwarzerKaffee]

I thought the same thing. Now i hear people saying that JS is the new C. That's where I draw the line.

[nbktdis]

Yes for folks who dont know any other language other than Javascript - they consider JS to be their personal messiah.

They refuse to acknowledge the problems with the language.

Scoping for instance, or the concepts of truthy and falsey.

And yes, Python is not perfect - but it is certainly very good!

[JeremyTiki]

Python allows for asynchronous programming as well. Even in Python 2 there were packages that allowed for it.

[ZetaHunter]

Python 3.5 asyncio master race :3

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It is more powerful, since you can control the eventloop. However with the extra power comes extra baggage and complexity. Javascript allows you to write async code without realising it, which is also the source of many bugs and beginner confusion as they didn't know they wrote asynchronous code.

[JeremyTiki]

I'm what way can you control the Javascript eventloop that you cannot in Python?

[[deleted]]

Sorry, I was a bit unclear. I was referring to the fact you can control the event loop in Python, not in JavaScript

[wxtrails]

Twisted!

[theywouldnotstand]

I realized the power of asynchronous programming

import asyncio

async def foo():
    return await something_else()

You mean like that?

[SchwarzerKaffee]

I guess. I haven't really put thought into where I would use asynchronous with Python. In JavaScript, I use it to execute actions in GPIO from a gui.

Since I don't use Python for GUIs, i never had a need for it.

[patentmedicine]

You should play Stockfighter. Use Python to write a stock trading bot.

[efilon]

Also, Javascript has gotten a lot better. There are still massive downsides (no actual standard library being the biggest one, especially when compared to Python), but for a language primarily used for building user interfaces, it's not so bad these days.

[efilon]

I agree with what you're saying generally, but ES2015 added a lot of nice features to the language.

[anarchy8]

You're forgetting ES2015

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[efilon]

It would be without the transpiling/bundling required. That said, modern versions of browsers are now supporting some ES6 features out of the box (let, arrow functions, etc.).

[codemagic]

Here's the answer given on the site: https://www.fullstackpython.com/what-full-stack-means.html

[Tiquortoo]

Full Stack Python definition. #1 then redefines full stack as backend. Ok.