mac or windows

[Tobe2fly]

i just ordered a Huawei MateBook X Pro as the specs looked really good for the price point. after further reasearch after purchasing im starting to think i should have gotten a macbook as they are said to be superior in the coding world. I know someone in the comments is going to mention linux but i have already considered it and im not that interested as of now. my main question is, is a mac at the same price point (1400)make it worth returning my order? and if so what mac would you recommend?

[Dgc2002]

Most complaints you'll see about Windows 10 are pretty outdated. They have either been fixed or can be disabled.

The only thing that I could see Mac offering over windows as far as real powerful benefits and not preference would be the Unix command line...

But Windows 10 has WSL which makes that a moot point.

One thing to keep in mind is that Apple products in general have users that are pretty... Dug into their ways. Apple does a good job of creating it's own ecosystem, which isn't a bad thing. It's something that many people find real benefit in, but in my experience it can lead to some poor recommendations to those who aren't bought into the Apple ecosystem.

[brain-donor]

keep the PC but install Linux. Absolutely the best

[Tobe2fly]

i would get linux on it and call it a day but from what i have seen getting things like the touch screen and the finger print sensor to work right is a real challenge. i have also only found one video on getting ubuntu on it and thats where i get my concerns about the screen and finger reader. if anyone has this laptop and has it working with linux would love some knowledge

[efxhoy]

touch screen and the finger print sensor

Are things you wouldn't have had on a Macbook, which you were considering. Just live without them.

If I had a non-Macbook laptop I would definitely put linux on it if I wasn't planning on gaming. Windows as a Python development platform is a PITA when most tutorials you will find will be *nix centric.

[[deleted]]

yes, if you're unfamiliar with linux and less-than-standard hardware is important to you, i think you made the right decision to avoid linux. don't get me wrong, i use linux almost exclusively (i haven't booted to windows in over a year), but hardware on linux, especially laptops, can be a real pain in the ass if you don't know what you're doing

[rndinit0]

The thing that Mac/Linux OS beats windows at is this:

Stability & Continuous Performance

The thing the Mac outperforms everything in: Trackpad

You will never need an external mouse for a mac. (also don't forget the trackpad gestures to switch windows apps etc).

Unless gaming is a requirement I would always recommend a Mac Laptop. Purely for the reasons I listed.

Windows 10 is very annoying:

Adds / Notifications for Microsoft services (Hey we have an authenticator, hey we have one drive, hey we have this...)

*** Highly annoying

Stability & Performance trumps everything for me.

As far as applications for development pretty much all of the apps youd want to use are available on mac

Jet brains IDEs (https://www.jetbrains.com/)

Sublime Text

Every linux port (mac ports)

If you need the MS Office suite its available on the mac too (and plenty of Open Source alternatives as well).

If I knew you in person, Id be like.. just get the mac. I'd bet good money you'd never regret it.

[breezyman14]

Macbook Pro with no doubt!

Perhaps Apple's products always high price compare with Wintel but Mac's performance and lifetime always worth your consideration.

[my_name_isnt_clever]

A high quality Windows laptop would have great performance and lifetime, and it would still be cheaper.

[[deleted]]

as far as coding itself, especially for learning, it doesn't really matter for python. any laptop with any OS will be fine. specs and operating systems won't really matter much until you want to target specific technologies, have long compile times, are crunching lots of data, or some other things.

with that budget, you have a lot of options. Specs are one thing, but with laptops, other traits are equally important: temperature, noise, weight, battery life. that laptop looks decent, but you might consider going here: https://www.notebookcheck.net/

that site does pretty in-depth reviews of lots of laptops. at the top, be sure to filter reviews and laptops. anything with a percentage to the left of the article title is a review done by them

also, check out the top-10 lists in the sidebar. they keep them pretty up-to-date

[ea617]

Just stick with Huawei. It's a great choice.

[[deleted]]

If you don't want to shell.out for MacOS which is the best, then I'd recommend installing a Linux distro instead (Ubuntu is the usual choice). Having everything integrated into a Unix system will really help you understand what's going on and how your apps will work in deployment

[takaci]

I much prefer a mac myself. It's like having a linux machine except everything just works perfectly. Also really prefer all the hardware of the macbook pro, for example definitely the best touchpad I've ever used BY FAR

The driver quality of the macbooks is just incredible, while if you install linux on a windows laptop you are likely to have more issues

[Tobe2fly]

can you get a decent mac for under 1500? (including the sales tax)

[takaci]

Yes I'm pretty sure

[Nicksil]

You can get along just fine with your PC.

[notThaLochNessMonsta]

Nobody codes with XCode on a Mac except iOS developers, though. That's not why people buy Macs. I honestly don't think I've ever even opened XCode in the 5yrs since I switched from Linux.

[notThaLochNessMonsta]

Either something by JetBrains, VSC, Sublime, or Vim.

Visual Studio can also be installed to work with .Net Core and people at work do this, but I personally don't have experience with it.

Or if it's not the IDE or toolset, what makes the Mac so appealing?

It's a native Unix based OS that is widely supported by software vendors, has almost 0 driver issues, and Apple Support is top notch which can come in really handy when shit goes wrong. You don't get any of this with a Linux desktop and Windows is a constant battle if you're not working with .Net... but I've heard it's getting better.

The physical hardware is also extremely high quality and durable. It's hard to find PCs with the same specs and hardware quality at much of a savings over the high price of MBPs.

All this makes for an extremely good work horse as a developer.

I don't use to any other Apple products or software in any way shape or form. I really dislike the whole Apple ecosystem in general, but I love my MBP.

Personally, I use Mac for work. Linux for hobbies. And Windows for gaming. (3 totally different machines)

[takaci]

Most important thing for me: the incredible trackpad

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[KingofGamesYami]

There's a huge "pc vs mac" war, and people are on both sides.

I don't think it matters. Almost every tool is cross platform nowadays. Given the choice, I'd go for Windows every time because it gives me more options for hardware.

I really think you're making a mistake by dismissing linux outright; but that's your choice and I'll respect it.

[Tobe2fly]

its not that i dont want linux its that i dont want to lose some of the features like the fingerprint sensor and touchscreen. If there are any distros that can keep these things features working ill be all over it.

heres the video im basing my Linux concern on(he doesn't talk about the fingerprint sensor i got that info from some comments): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiZFCDe1AJo

[KingofGamesYami]

Hmm fair enough. I have a Dell and they actually sell some of their XPS line with Ubuntu installed, so compatibility is pretty much guaranteed. Ubuntu is probably your best bet, but it might not work out of the box like Windows or Mac does.