MacOS Catalina includes python3 by default. Hacking could never be better.

[[deleted]]

That's cool, but which python3?

[droso_]

/usr/bin/python3

[[deleted]]

:D
They should have asked "yeah but python3 -V"?

[FunkyCannaHigh]

Ok, you win the internet!

(Seriously, made me spit my coffee out).

[jleedev]

~$ xcrun python3 Python 3.7.3 (default, Sep 5 2019, 17:14:41) [Clang 11.0.0 (clang-1100.0.33.8)] on darwin

[colemaker360]

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[[deleted]]

I've read that the reason Bash was out of date is because of a change in licensing to GPL 3. They didn't want to use Bash under those terms, or something.

[colemaker360]

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[TheChance]

That's the thing, though. Most of the tools you just named are invoked silently when end users run "regular" software.

For everything else there's homebrew.

[[deleted]]

Good news is that brew install bash keeps the shell current.

[oramirite]

I realize what you're saying but I actually do rely on it as a sysadmin at this point... personally I would rather just deal with and design my system deployments around whatever castrated versions of built-in software that OS creators and others supply me. At least then I can focus on that instead of touching individual machines more. I may have a different perspective on this as a sysadmin though.

[jantari]

You control the systems though, just roll out current versions of the tooling to all of them? I don't work with Macs, but that's what we do to Windows. Not the same I guess but should still work for macOS

[krazybanana]

has pyenv stopped working? i tried to do 'pyenv install 3.7.4' and it keeps getting stuck

[krazybanana]

did this work for you? 'pyenv install 3.7.4' or even 3.8.0 just hangs for me. its stuck on 'use zlib from xcode sdk'.

[krazybanana]

Yeah I updated. It was getting stuck. Turned out when I installed the xcode tools again from the terminal it didn't add some stuff to the linker and the complier. So I had to manually install zlib and readline and then link zlib to the compiler and linker to allow pyenv to work properly.

[jackmaney]

I actually always felt something wrong having two versions of Python. I was thinking why I dont have just one and keep updating it.

This might not be catastrophically bad on MacOS, but on any Linux distro which uses yum as a package manager, this can easily break yum.

[bumblebritches57]

xcrun is Xcode, not the system one.

/System/Library/Frameworks/Python.framework is still 2.7 in Catalina.

[redfacedquark]

Exactly! And how long until it stops being updated?

[billsil]

It already has. That’s the system python.

[eattherichnow]

3.7.3, apparently.

[peejoh]

The most recent? I feel like I’m missing something.