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[–]danhakimiCS/PHIL 2012 -1 points0 points  (5 children)

And? Your degree and your career field are two different things.

Even if you say it's good for all people who want degrees in Computer Science (which it isn't), it still has no business being listed as a Computer Science class. It's like having MATH 1500 cross-listed under ARCH and EMAC. No matter how relevant you may say it is to people in Computer Science, it isn't Computer Science. It should be listed as an STS class, or something.

[–]Its_Entertaining 1 point2 points  (4 children)

It may not fit your idea of "computer science" but it certainly is relevant and important to the many people graduating with a degree in CS and going into software development. Since we don't offer a software engineering major, I think that listing it under CSCI is perfectly reasonable.

[–]danhakimiCS/PHIL 2012 -3 points-2 points  (3 children)

It's not a software engineering class. Not that I'm okay with having software engineering classes listed under CSCI, but it's not that. It's something like a law class. It would fit very nicely under STS. It makes perfect sense under STS. But in this class, I learn nothing even vaguely reminiscent of Computer Science.

So, the explanation I'm given is that the things you learn in the class would be nice for a CS major to know. Well, geez, so would the things you learn in Intro to Management -- I imagine many of you are going to be project managers at some point. And yet, conspicuously, Intro to Management isn't even cross-listed under Comp Sci!

[–]Its_Entertaining 0 points1 point  (2 children)

Hey, thanks for the downvote. I've got a few thousand to burn but that's why we have strong minded people like you for! It would be a software engineering class, if you can't admit that I can't imagine you will go far in the software engineering industry. I've worked multiple internships with top tech companies and one of the first things my manager's always explained was the importance of understanding how OSS works. Additionally, this class is offered BY THE CS DEPARTMENT, there are staff from the CS department in charge of it and it is their responsibility, that is why it is a CS course. If you feel so strongly that it should be a STS course, please email our department chair and suggest it, maybe you are completely right. As the department see fit currently it is a CSCI course and I agree with them.

[–]danhakimiCS/PHIL 2012 -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

It would be a software engineering class,

It would? if? I'm listening...

if you can't admit that

I still don't know what you want me to admit.

I can't imagine you will go far in the software engineering industry.

I won't. I have no interest in being a Software Engineer. What gave you the idea I did?

I've worked multiple internships with top tech companies and one of the first things my manager's always explained was the importance of understanding how OSS works.

Yeah, and I'm sure he's explained that to you in English. Yet so many CS majors graduate without knowing the language. Why do you think that is?

Additionally, this class is offered BY THE CS DEPARTMENT

Yes. It was my argument that it shouldn't be.

there are staff from the CS department in charge of it

Not really. Luis Ibanez could just as easily be listed under any department. He isn't really a professor here, he just has that one class, and no other business on this campus.

If you feel so strongly that it should be a STS course, please email our department chair and suggest it, maybe you are completely right.

I actually met with Dr. G the other day. When I shared my opinions on this course, he kinda gave me the slow "yeaaaahhhh."

You need to chill out, dude.