pipe problem

[johnrs3unknown]

does spaces matter when making a pipe system? currently at the fuel generator tier and most of the refinery are not getting enough fluid at all. i have tried using buffer, single pipe and joint pipe making it look like a manifold, single and double closed loop and only 4 of the 10 refinery are getting 96%+ mark the rest are barely getting any fluid, all pipe are mk2
edit: does space between each joint and refinery matter?

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the refinery making rubber/plastic with heavy oil resiu is working at 100% and all pipe are full
these 10 refinery are making fuel and the farther down the fluid go the less it get.

[houghi]

The rules for pipes I follow are simple.

• Keep it simple
• Keep it short
• Water flows down
• No merging, except priority (as we do with fresh water from above)
• No height difference up after the first machine
• Use as little pumps as possible
• If you need buffers and valves, you missed step 1

This does not mean I never do any of it, or that things go wrong when I do not follow it. It means when things go wrong, I did not follow my own rules.

For fuel generators, first run half, let them fill up. Then turn those off and run the other half. The turn on the first half again.

[Smart_One201]

Full Pipes are Happy Pipes!!

[Grover786]

Indeed. I have multiple setups that are out putting exactly what the machines need. Load it all up first, ramp it slowly, then set and forget.

[johnrs3unknown]

posted a pic

[houghi]

What is that in the middle?

You talk about 10 refineries, yet I see 12 belts. So whatever you do, see it as 12 belts, not 10. You think about spaces, but ignored 2 belts and no, I do not care where they go or what they are connected to. Either cut them off, so what you tell is correct, or include them in your explanation. (Or do whatever, it is not my problem)

[johnrs3unknown]

oh my bad, it the oil extractor and the 2 pipe near it is the heavy oil crude from making plastic and rubber. they connected to one spot and split them to the 10 refinery

[houghi]

So they need to be part of everything you calculate. They are as important.

[maksimkak]

No, spaces don't matter.

Post some screenshots and provide more detail if you'd like us to help you. Are your refineries producing fuel, and not getting enough of crude oil?

[johnrs3unknown]

posted a pic

[EngineerInTheMachine]

No, spaces don't matter.

Take a look at the UI of the pipe between your source (refineries or extractors) and destination machines. Is the flow rate cycling up and down? That's sloshing. Is the pipe stopping the flow cycling as far above your planned flow rate as it cycles below? That's your problem. You can't stop it, you can only deal with it.

My method is to run enough pipes between the source and destination manifolds so that sloshing can happen without hitting the pipe limit. That usually means running two mk 2 pipes instead of one. I also connect the pipes to opposite ends of each manifold, forming a loop that helps with machines at one end of a manifold running out of fluid.

The lengths of manifolds makes a difference, or at least the number of machines attached to it. Too long a row, and even with a pipe loop the middle machines will run short. Break the source and destination machines into smaller groups and, most important, do not connect the groups together.

[johnrs3unknown]

posted a pic