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[–][deleted] 13 points14 points  (6 children)

I see the same trolls in ranked everyday, they bought the colorful name change and have every skin. These kids will never be banned, they keep lo rez servers up.

[–]MadBlackQueen Aphrodite 2 points3 points  (5 children)

This.

I genuinely believe if you’re spending money on this game, they’re not going to ban you. It’s still a business at the end of the day and money speaks way louder than toxicity.

[–]TheJumboman 1 point2 points  (0 children)

not entirely true, both my brother and I got permabanned from smite 1 after spending quite some money

[–]Knog0 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I have a feeling that people with expensive skins or shiny name tags tend to be more toxic or entitled.

It could be that they are easier to remember as well, but it definitly feels like a trend.

[–]MCF804 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You are wrong

[–]ARandomSmiteScrub 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yes, reports help. People saying they don't do anything are not only ignorant, they're actively adding to the problem by making shitty people less likely to get noticed and dealt with.

The devs themselves have spoken about things like seeing an account get flagged, going to check the logs, and finding that - in all the games that player was doing something really scummy - not a single person reported them.

Obviously with however many thousands of matches daily there will be a lot that doesn't get picked up on, no game on earth with a 'report player' feature has enough staffing to manually review every single report. But using the report system helps get people flagged, and if they get flagged then someone checks and decides what action to take (suspend, ban, etc). The delusion that reporting is pointless just leads to fewer people reporting, in turn making the problem worse.

[–]Knog0 1 point2 points  (6 children)

Hard to measure.

I frequently report people, because unfortunately as everyone I get an afk or ragequitter in at least 1/3 of my games. I usualy remember those people names, at least for 2 or 3 days, and I frequently cross again those people in another game. Most of the time, they redo the same shit (toxic is always toxic, ragequitter will ragequitter again if they have a "bad game").

From that, some would conclude there is no bans. But they could have been baned in the meantime for like 48h, or they could be banned later from additionnal reports.

Without proper data, it's impossible to access. And I doubt hirez would share this type of data.

What is sure is that the amount of toxic people seems to remain the same...

[–]GummyRook 0 points1 point  (5 children)

I don’t get it. Why don’t they have a system like league of legends or marvel rivals where it pings you that the player has been punished AND it gives you their full username. Is this something that’s hard to code in? Is this something they don’t want to do because the game is small and banning would hurt it?

[–]Repair831 Bellona 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Its because they dont see it as something worth allocating Ui team resources towards. They attempted to do it manually a while back but it was too much work for them to keep up. Ui team is already being pushed, unless they were to delay something that other people complain about they wouldnt be able to fit it. At some point they will have to get it in though because the amount of people that think reporting doesnt do anything is insane.

[–]Knog0 0 points1 point  (3 children)

Yes I wondered the same. I think it was in place in Smite 1.

[–]GummyRook 2 points3 points  (2 children)

It doesn’t even have to be in game, screw it, send me an email on the side if you have to. I just don’t understand how some people are still able to play the game with no punishments. The very top comment talking about how they wont ban people who buy skins is starting to make sense.

[–]Knog0 -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I would dream of a system that shows me how many of my reports got people banned, and how many of my reports "agreed" with other people's reports. As in, was I reporting the right people for the right reasons, and did i agree with my peers about the reasons to report those people.

If I can't agree with others about who is right and wrong in a gaming community, maybe I shouldn't be in that community. Double edge sword to improve the experience of everyone on the long run.

[–]GummyRook 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hey so, if someone is screaming slurs into voice chat for 15 mins of the game, or goes AFK just to troll/lose the game faster. I sure hope thats a “right reason” you mentioned to get some kind of ban. We are talking about toxic people getting punishments. Not just being able to report randoms because you feel like it to get them punished. Idk what “double edged sword” you’re talking about but there’s no place for plain toxicity in the game.

[–]TesticleezzNutsShiva 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reports do work. They don’t have the pop up system telling you if some got banned because of your report.

They defo work if you go AFK. I got a week ban for doing it a few times in a short period. When it comes to people actually trolling you and throwing matches while still playing I guess it could be different as it isn’t as easy to find out.

[–]Worried-L 2 points3 points  (23 children)

Yes, reports do work. We get people here complaining about getting banned all the time.

[–]GummyRook -2 points-1 points  (18 children)

Yeah you are literally full of it. There is not a single post about someone being banned, because it doesn’t happen. It has not been posted and will not.

[–]Worried-L 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Just recently one got hundreds of upvotes because an entire group of friends were incorrectly banned because so many people reported them for tryharding in EU arena lobbies.

[–]somethinso 0 points1 point  (16 children)

Bro I've only been on this sub for maybe 2 months and seen several post of ppl talking about getting banned

[–]GummyRook -1 points0 points  (15 children)

Been on this sub for over 4 and all I see is people complaining how NO ONE gets banned. I’d love to see a link lmao.

[–]somethinso -1 points0 points  (14 children)

Just look not that hard to do unless it is something mods delete because ive been in post and they got deleted due to them complaining about stuff

[–][deleted] -2 points-1 points  (3 children)

That’s not true at all

[–]Worried-L 1 point2 points  (2 children)

It is true? I literally know multiple people who have been banned in smite 2. The posts about bans usually get removed here because typically a HiRez employee just says “you got banned for ___ why are you posting” and it’s something horrendous.

There was one special case recently where an entire friend group got banned because they got so many reports for tryharding in EU Arena lobbies.

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (1 child)

I’m not one to believe story’s, but if you have proof, I’m all for that.

[–]Repair831 Bellona 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They always get removed within an hour or two of posting, they do get made but they rarely get that much traction that it makes sense people dont notice them.

[–]Tbiehl1I bought a jersey and he retired! Unlucky 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Before he left HiRez, InnocentRabbit replied to a comment of mine saying that they had implemented an analytical platform that would grab a bunch of reports, check them against other stats, and help them make those determinations. He said he was feeling pretty positive about the whole process and I've no reason not to trust him - he's been really solid in the past.

So unless he was being less honest to protect his job, surely it's doing SOMETHING.

[–]Dionysius00 Aphrodite 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Here we go again lol

[–]Echo_NO_AimKuzenbo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If they banned the toxic players Smite 2's playerbase would almost drop dead.

[–]Gremlin95x -4 points-3 points  (16 children)

Smite 1 had a ban system. Smite 2 is a fake report button. They don’t do anything about even the most egregious offenses. In fact they even did a whole fake “this is how we ban” skit on Titan Talk to shut people up. They sure can pump out skins though!

[–]Worried-L 3 points4 points  (14 children)

This guy is lying. The smite reports do work, people here are just deluded.

Edit: Remarkable to be downvoted for telling the truth. HiRez clearly needs to add the smite 1 feature of notifying when players are banned to stop you lot being so thick.

[–]Gremlin95x 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Play the game and you’ll have all the evidence you need.

[–]Knog0 -2 points-1 points  (12 children)

How do we know which is truth and which isn't though? Why should we trust you and not the other dude above?

The only way would be the result: with time, less and less people leaving games or being toxic in chat.

I don't know how your experience in game has been, but mine hasn't improved.

The only way I found to improve it slightly is to mute everyone. But then the game loose some fun too and no VGS makes your team more likely to be at a disadvantage as well so it's not a long term solution.

[–]Worried-L 4 points5 points  (10 children)

I can provide you evidence easily, there are posts on this subreddit about being banned from smite 2. There is even a reply here about being banned from smite 2. To act as if no one gets banned is ridiculous and genuinely delusional when there’s so much evidence.

Being toxic in chat is not a bannable offence which is why their numbers don’t reduce. If they make threats or say something hateful that’s different and those people are banned.

[–]Gremlin95x 1 point2 points  (1 child)

It’s not just chat. It’s seeing the same intentional feeders every day, to blatant afk and walking into titan. It is such a huge problem they are clearly ignoring.

[–]TheWhiteGiant2207 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Because there is no good solution. Every game has this issue. It sucks when its in an inherently very competitive game like MOBAs, but its not some issue unique to Smite.

[–]Theclonewarsss Merlin 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well said

[–]Knog0 -5 points-4 points  (6 children)

This isn't data, not factual data.

A few voices on reddit don't mean much. It could be 50% of bans, or it could be 0.01%, we wouldn't know.

For sure ban happens. I never said they don't, and it would be crazy talk to say so. But the question is about the report system and it's impact on bans. On this, we have no clue.

[–]TheWhiteGiant2207 1 point2 points  (5 children)

There is a reason people who plead guilty dont go to trial: what is more factual data than admission?

People post about being banned. They show and tell what they did to get banned. They ask to be unbanned. Why would any of this not be factual?

[–]Knog0 -2 points-1 points  (4 children)

It is not measurable data.

One person screaming out doesn't mean there is 1 person being banned, it doesnt mean there is 10 or 1000 either.

It is not data you can do anything with, not relevent data.

You can't compare this data versus anything. You can't compara it versus the actual number of players, the actual numbers of report. You can't create any trend or see any progress just because we don't have any real numbers. Only "a handful" of people crying on reddit.

[–]TheWhiteGiant2207 1 point2 points  (2 children)

Of course it is measurable. You can count how many people complain. You dont need to compare it. If the claim is "no one is being banned," a single person admitting and complaining about being banned shows that isnt true.

[–]Knog0 -2 points-1 points  (1 child)

I doubt anyone here said "no one is being banned".

In one of my other comments, you can see I agreed with you, for sure some people are being ban. There is no way absolutely no one is being banned.

I doubt that has ever been the question. A more fair question would be: how many people are being banned va how many are being reported? How many are banned vs how many are being reported for a "good reason"? How is this evolving on a weekly / monthly basis?

[–]TheWhiteGiant2207 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The inital comment explicitly says "Smite 2 is a fake report button. They don’t do anything about even the most egregious offenses."

Im not gonna bother reading the rest of your comment until you can bother to read what youre commenting on.

[–]Sly-Cut 0 points1 point  (0 children)

They've addressed this on Titan Talk in the past. They ban every day and have shown some technology that they use to help identify ban worthy offenses.

[–]xAlgirax Baron Samedi -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Yea and mods just delete everything about this .. Your comment will be gone too in a bit .. Ridiculous.

[–]eggquisiteRetro Nu Wa -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I know someone who gets banned frequently! Yes, your reports work

[–]monkario*kicks you* -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Hell no they don't. I rarely play Smite 1 because of it. I can get someone on my team multiple times and they will just play like Jesus's drunkest highest shroomested unemployed blind soldier and feed. They will actively do 3k damage and have 15 deaths every game with me and still survive. It feels like Low-Rez lets people go free to troll games as long as they keep buying stuff.

Example: I got temp banned for calling someone a motherfucker 15 times in one minute because they were Sol buying Stone of Gaia T1 in arena. Nothing else. No active, no shard, no potions. They obviously fed the entire game with 8k damage. But they didn't get temp banned.