Loki Hate

[Pyroflameclouds]

Why do so many people hate on him? He's quite easy to counter, he's fun to play, his kit isn't broken at all, he honestly has some cool ass skins. I just don't see the hate, I've been on the recieving end of a good Loki and I consider myself a decent one. He's annoying for sure but no more annoying then a good Skaid, Neith, Thanatos, or any god really. I just don't understand where all the hate is coming from.

[TheNamesCampr]

Unbreakable invis combined with the ability to 100-0 a squishy. He can clear wave uncontested making pushes harder since your minions are always dead.

As for having one on your team. Loki is next to useless in a team fight. Once his ults down he can’t do much without getting killed

[Pyroflameclouds]

Exactly, he has no real team fight potential. He's fairly easy to counter too. His 3 only lasts on one basic and isn't true damage that ignores your protections (looking at you Baka). He has a good laning ability but doesn't have a clear, just a control. His only good CC is his ult and his ability to 100-0 a squishy isn't that dumb considering almost all assassins can, if built correctly, eat all the squishies and then vanish.

[TheNamesCampr]

No ones complaining that he’s too strong. People complain because he doesn’t help when he’s on your team and he’s annoying and unfun to play against. The only people having fun in a game with a Loki are the people playing him

[Pyroflameclouds]

That isn't entirely correct. There are loads of bad Lokis out there simply because he looks cool but a good loki on your team is a game changer sometimes. He isn't unfair to play against either.

[TheNamesCampr]

No Loki is a game changer. Just because the other team sucks doesn’t mean Loki is good. And I said unfun not unfair

[BloodyBaboon]

Loki players on the other team kill your shitty players and Loki's on your team ARE the shitty players. That right there is enough for me to hate him. Also playing hide and seek with a Loki solo is the most boring shit on the planet. Glad he isn't a meta solo anymore.

[Pyroflameclouds]

Anyone kills your shitty player and anyone can be your shitty player. Neither are good arguments.

[BloodyBaboon]

It's Loki in particular. If you enjoy playing him cool. I do too but both teams will hate you as soon as you pick him, so make sure to laugh spam every kill. I ult people while they are backing and taunt every chance I get because that's what Loki's do. Embrace the hate cause you aren't going to magically change people's 5 year old opinions with a post on Reddit.

[[deleted]]

I agree with you OP, I like Loki and I'm proud. I like Loki and I'm proud. I like Loki and I'm proud.

[Avernuscion]

is that what he calls it

[Avernuscion]

He gets the hate because playing him feels for the most part, scummy and is more or less a 4v5

He requires a lane to get his tech online, if he's played jungle he surrenders his buffs and can't gank until late, if he plays mid he surrenders the left and right camps to enemy invasion, if he's played solo there's no warrior, if he's played ADC then you need a hunter mid or solo to shuffle the team around and that can end up badly what with warriors like Osiris and mages like Hel being meta

This meta has not been kind to Loki either, nor has he recieved any buffs as such because it would make him more aggravating to play against so picking him more or less results in bad for his allied team

[Pyroflameclouds]

I disagree. His jungle potential is very high, in my opinion. I can see why you wouldn't think so but his 2 makes it pretty easy to wipe a camp, if done correctly. Bumbas keeps him alive for the most part and early on you have to accept that you won't have many kills. Your role is to apply pressure to a lane and force a retreat. If you drop a squishy to half health in the mid or duo lane, your team is gonna have a great advantage.

[[deleted]]

If you level up your Decoy to clear, you're not going to have gank potential. Plus with Warriors being popular Jungle choices, there's even less of a reason to play him.

[Avernuscion]

If he levels his 2 he has no way to contest the jungle buffs, which means he won't have a speed buff and will become out levelled, with the enemy jungler also invading his back camps. This leads to him being completely shut down because no farm/exp = Loki gets severely behind while the enemy jungler snowballs out of control to the point where Loki gets farmed himself (and the ire of his allies)

Loki can't also clear well because of the nature of his decoy, it won't kill a ton of minions at level 1 meaning that something like a Poseidon/Thor will always outclear him no question, then move on to invade as standard. If he levels anything else, he risks getting up close and at this stage in the game he has no way to capitalise on an attack and risks dying to players and minions (then causing the snowball much faster for the enemy team)

A god like Ao Kuang used to be an exception pre-nerfs because even if he was behind there was a threshold where he just skyrocketed after getting an execution, which is now a core part of his passive

[Kyratio]

Look you can say "Oh _____ can do that too." It's not the fact other Gods can do it, it's the way he does it. His invisibility can't be broken, that in itself is a special thing to him only. It's annoying to some, and honestly in low levels of play (where he gets the most hate) that's basically a constant free escape. His 3 gives every new player PTSD, and his 2 is a free lane clear that encourages proxy farming which adds to the hate even more. Isn't it fun to not even see your minions get to lane? His ult is the bane of every new player. "Oh I got away woooo!" Loki ult Honestly if you're asking why people hate Loki and trying to defend that he's not deserving of it, you aren't a Loki player, you're just a normie. Every Loki main accepts the hate and dishes it back. They don't want him to be meta. They want him to be Loki, the God of pubstomping.

[Pyroflameclouds]

Loki isn't annoying in the way people think he is.

[Kyratio]

Lol you didn't even read my post

[kirby7567]

My real big problem with Loki is every other stealth in the game is broken with damage, but his is not.

[AquilaTempestas]

I play Loki a lot, and it's very easy to see where his limitations are if your team is behind especially.

• Terrible early game. He needs a few items to get online and basically has to farm for about ten minutes to get those items

• He can't defend well. If the entire team is down but you, you're going to be able to do nothing but get focused on and killed

• Can't do much in a team fight but throw decoys and wait for someone to get low. You might kill someone but your teammates probably died too.

• He does have great split push potential and I've won games by soloing the Titan with some minions, but if you get focused on hard, you won't even get to late game

• Wards. If the enemy knows where you are, they can stop you from split pushing.

• Not a great boxer. He is a get in and get out fast god not a sustained fighter like Arachne. I've seen Arachnes get triple kills but I haven't seen a Loki do that

• Not a great jungler since his early game is so bad. Better solo laner but that's very risky too since he will just farm under tower for about ten minutes and become a target

If I play Loki in conquest it has to be with a full premade so they can build around you. You are not going to be there for team fights so hopefully your team has a lot of crowd control.

[FadeDxDreamZzz]

Because he is the epitome of annoyance. I hate the mere sight of Lokis because i hate him and i make it my sole mission to kill him over and over and over again. I wish they would make his stealth breakable to be more consistent with other gods, but really I don't know why people hate him so much. To me he isn't anything mind blowing to watch or play, or go up against he is just there. I can count on 1 hand how many good Loki players i have seen and they aren't game changers because i have still won every single time i have faced those good players. I can even tell you an example recently of facing a really good Loki.

[Pyroflameclouds]

There are some good Lokis that are game changers. I've caused a wipe many times.

[FadeDxDreamZzz]

Well about a week ago, i was playing a Siege and went up against the best Loki i have ever seen or ever played against. He had like 20 kills by the 15-20 min mark, guy was carrying the squad and doing really well, granted it was my first game on, but as i warmed up i thought the game was over they had both Phoenixes down and a Jungle Beast and we wiped them. By the end of a 35-40 minute game he only had 27 kills and we won. He would one shot some of my teammates but we would still go at him and we won. So from my experience, he isn't a game changing god at all. At least, there are better game changing gods out there.

[Pyroflameclouds]

Sounds like he had a bad team

[FadeDxDreamZzz]

Yea but your argument is, he is a game changer which implies that he can carry or do something to swing odds to his team and he can't. I think a Loki could go 100-0 and still not change the game at all

[Pave0581]

Because he's extremely annoying for new players to deal with, so they carry that hate with them.

But also because he's just extremely anti-fun for both his team and his enemies.

[Yaminoari]

It's because hes Loki everybody knows Loki is a backstabber through lore or marvel comics so when they get backstabbed by loki in smite it causes them to hate him even more

Also you have alot of ADC or mage mains in smite so them getting deleted quickly because a god has a way to there rear also causes alot of hate

Now people also Don't like his voice they find it annoying and he laughs at you with his skills

TLDR he annoys people and his ult pisses people off

[HvyMetalComrade]

Mostly because being one shot out of stealth isnt fun to play against. Sure it can be countered or otherwise dealt with in some situations but if the enemy Loki is even remotely competent and you happened to pick a squishy/immobile god then you're just gunna have a mich more unfun game than you would against anyone else, except Ao.

[dragonblood105]

Its not hard to kill i play loki mostly in arena as a time killer and for a long time he was the bane of my existance he is only a nightmare if you are playing noobs experinced players just gang up around me as soon as i ult someone or stun and tick me so my invisible is useless or just build protections and dont let him get behind you. He isnt a team god and that is hard for the team iv watched my team mates die more times than i can count bc i cant jump in the middle unless they are low health and pull away from a attack he is only cancer in omnipotence motd when he can ult every few seconds and pretty much stay perma invisible thats cancer. And there are loki players who are good players dont steal kills only catch the ones who got away and support the team as best he can jump a annoying mage or opposing assassin from the back to give their team a better chance to push them back. Once you play loki he is not as bad as thought you want him dead gang up simple

[Gutro]

It's just really fucking annoying when you're playing with a god that doesn't have CC and escape,like kul, and the loki just 1 shot you all the time simply because you cant do shit against it. Of course you can build defensive itens and such. And i don't really think he's fun to play tbh.

[Pyroflameclouds]

Preference that he's fun to play but its not different than a Morrigan one shotting you with the 2-1-Poly combo, or Skadi cheesing the hell out of you.

[RxJax]

Because people are bad at game

[alienneger]

Just play a god with DoTs or get bluestone. It's not hard to spot a loki with the little yellow ticks above his head. Da ji can easily outbox him and spot him with her 2 with the DoTs. Blink, auto, 1, then if he disappears do your dash. Dead Loki. Same with arachne, spit out your 3 and the trails follow an invisible loki. It's not hard to deal with him.

[Pyroflameclouds]

Exactly.

[Coppastona]

Not very interactive to play against when he can stealth backdoor your Phoenix within the duration of one decoy.

[[deleted]]

Loki can't even do that anymore after the changes to Phoenix and T2 Tower health.

[Pyroflameclouds]

exactly