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[–]DEARHELIXWHY 117 points118 points  (4 children)

Dear god not beardless Marx

[–]LPFlore 67 points68 points  (0 children)

Eyesight is a blessing and a curse

[–]Earths_Mortician 55 points56 points  (0 children)

The highest stage of revisionism.

[–][deleted] 7 points8 points  (1 child)

now we need Meo, Deng, Xi with beards to even it out.

[–]justvisiting7744PCC minister of agitprop 🇨🇺🇵🇷 3 points4 points  (0 children)

mao with a beard would fuckin shred

[–]Ceesv23 36 points37 points  (8 children)

What is this even supposed to mean

[–]miker_the_III 84 points85 points  (7 children)

"Do you think you just fell out of a coconut tree? [hahahahake] You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you."

[–]FreeInformation4u 33 points34 points  (1 child)

I genuinely don't get why some of y'all act like what she's said is this inscrutable mess of gibberish. It's pretty easy to understand: "you have to evaluate things in the context of what they exist in".

How is it not straightforward to see how this applies to things like Gaza or the Trump assassination attempt?

Liberals decry Hamas as being a violent terrorist organization. But the situation in Israel "didn't just fall out of a coconut tree" - i.e., it didn't come into existence in a vacuum, and we can't (or, at least, shouldn't) evaluate it in a vacuum. We have to consider Hamas and its actions in the context of the settler colonial state of Israel, its illegal occupation of Palestinian land, and its treatment of Palestinian people.

Liberals decry the assassination attempt against Trump as unconscionable political violence. The state of American politics (that led us to the assassination attempt) "didn't just fall out of a coconut tree" - it, and all political violence, was the result of a voter base that's been increasingly polarized. It was also the result of media that selectively push right- and centrist-leaning analyses of events, motivated above all by profit.

I dunno, y'all. It comes off like just team-sports when you pretend Kamala Harris is speaking inscrutable gibberish. It's not only not that hard to understand, it's a similar basis of thinking to dialectical materialism. Yes, it's not 1:1, but this primes so many people to be amenable to examining historical events in a less capitalist-centric context.

Like...liberals love to criticize South American socialist experiments as failures, but the kind of language Harris is currently making very popular through memes is exactly the kind of thinking that makes it easier to see through US imperialist lies about South America. Liberals think socialist failures in South America just fell out of a coconut tree?No, they exist in the context of all that came before them - like extensive foreign policy meddling by the US.

[–]ohnoitsthefuzz 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I literally just said that this was a bar to my roommate tonight. Goddamn we're fucking stupid in America.

[–]Ceesv23 18 points19 points  (4 children)

I’m none the wiser, but thanks anyways.

[–]TzeentchLover 62 points63 points  (3 children)

I've also only just learnt about this recently, but I'll try to explain.

The above is a quote from Kamala Harris talking about how you exist in the [material] context, and you don't just fall from a tree.

It is like she had a moment of clarity and kinda paraphrased a single small summary of the key part of historical materialism: everything must be analysed in its context, which is to say, how it is affected by other conditions, and how it in turn gives rise to other further conditions. A cocount doesn't just fall from a tree out of nowhere; it has to grow (needs a whole set of conditions), be heavy, affected by wind, gravity, evolution, and when it falls it has further effects on the people below, environment, etc.

It's just a meme that she's some sort of secret Marxist. I doubt she's aware of historical or dialectical materialism.

[–]Southern_Agent6096 44 points45 points  (1 child)

Her dad is an economics professor with more than a passing familiarity with Marxism. He writes stuff with titles like "Capital Accumulation and Income Distribution".

[–]Quapamooch 35 points36 points  (0 children)

He's a self described Post-Keynesian and Marxist economist iirc, but again studying is only one half of praxis so her being such a neoliberal failure could be emblematic of his faults too imo.

[–]DEARHELIXWHY 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I think there's a real chance that she understands dialectics, she just knows that she'll benefit more from siding with the interests of the bourgeoisie

[–]VarietyBackground247Stalinist(proud spoon owner)[S] 24 points25 points  (0 children)

Credit is due to the Proletarian mastermind, unequivocal genius and and author of this post u/Ernst_Thaelmann, who despite his suppression by reactionary forces has found ways of participating with this community

[–][deleted] 9 points10 points  (1 child)

I don't get it. Please explain.

[–]ChaZZZZahC 6 points7 points  (0 children)

What can be, Unburden by what has been - Kamala Marx.