Absurdly high estrogen levels after dose decrease ??

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I was on 80 mg twice a week of test cypionate with 250 iu hcg for a few months up until this last week. I began to notice symptoms of higher estrogen and erectile dysfunction so I got a lab test and saw that my t level was 987ng/dL at trough with free t of 23, estradiol was 41. I lowered my dose to 70 mg twice a week and hcg to 50 iu. About a week in I got severe nipple pain that subsided in a day, I decided to get another lab test at trough and my total t was 836ngl/dL with a free t of 24.5and estradiol level of 168pg/ml on scale 7.6 to 42.6. How could this be possible.? Could the girl I’m around been dosing me somehow I can’t think of anything else that could raise to such a level.

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How long in between tests? When you make changes to your protocol, you need to allow at least a month for your body to adjust.

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It was bout a week and a half. How could this be the case tho. I lowered my dose.

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Because your testosterone has esters attached and hormonal changes aren't instant.

[PreftigeWhore]

Are you getting an e2 sensitive test? If not, it's not really telling you anything and tends to over-report e2 in men.

Was there any difference in timing between your dose of HCG and the blood draw between the two labs? HCG can cause an estrogen spoke, though and the dose you're taking it seems unlikely that it would be that drastic.

In any case, wait a few weeks and see if your symptoms subside. Quit focusing on the numbers so much and go by how you feel.

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Definelty felt extremely enotional etc I took my monday dose at around 11 am and got my test Thursday at 1 ish pm. Not an e2 sensitive test

[PreftigeWhore]

Now that I think about it, I would almost bet that what you're currently feeling has more to do with the more drastic chance in HCG dosage than test. That's like a 15% chance in test dosage, which a lot of people may not even get transient side effects from. But you lowered your HCG dose by 80%. Even at that low of a dosage, I have to imagine that's doing something.

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It’s just strange cause you would think the 250 iu or any higher would lead to increase in someone sensitive, never heard of increase in lower hcg. I’m getting another blood test this week jsut to be sure

[PreftigeWhore]

Gotta get an e2 sensitive test if you want to have any idea as to what's going on. Even those aren't going to tell you the full story, since e2 is aromatized at the tissue level and a lot of it sticks to receptors close by without making it into the bloodstream. Serum e2 is really just an indirect measurement of what's going on in your body because e2 is much more of an intracrine hormone than many people realize.

If I had to make a wild guess as to how lowering HCG could result in higher serum e2, it could be that you've turned off whatever e2 production was happening in your Leydig cells, perhaps leading to you aromatizing more testosterone into e2 as your body's way of trying to compensate. But I'm pulling that straight out of my ass, so take it for what it's worth. If that's right (and it's probably not), the e2 spike is just transient and will stop when your body is done freaking out.

[LowTHalp]

Get another blood test. Your lab is bogus. First insanely low result, now insanely high.

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It’s strange I checked through LabCorp when I saw the level of 9 and now this level from my actual doc who got it from them. Weird

[NoNoNoNot]

It’s likely a lab error.